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Old 05-06-2007, 09:49 AM   #1
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Extreme 120 vs.Tuniq vs.Ninja (56k warning)

Just got my Extreme 120 yesterday and decided to do a quick comparison with the Tuniq and Ninja that I also have. Nothing special, just installed them with AS5, and did a quick 30 min orthos small fft's. I have found that this heats things up pretty good. All tests were done with the side panel on, with an Antec 900. Load temps were taken after 30 min of orthos. Idle temps were taken within 5 min of stopping orthos. I'm posting full screen shots so the time in the tray is shown.

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E6600 9x400 1.465 bios (about 1.4 or so with droop at load)
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Ambient room temp 21c
Case temp 25c

First up: Scythe Ninja

Idle:


Load:


Next: Tuniq 120

Idle:


Load:


Finally: Ultra Extreme 120

Idle:
(I accidentally closed orthos after the load shot, but you can see the time in the tray is just after the load shot.)


Load:


Some pics of the set-up:
I suck at taking pics, and my camera is old, so they aren't great.







Looks like I forgot to take a side closed pic with the Tuniq.





As you can see, and just as everyone else has stated, the Ultra Extreme 120 kicks ass. With this quick test, the Tuniq 120 is only slightly behind. I think that they would be just about the same for 24/7. The Ninja is still a fine cooler, but I don't think it can keep up with the top ones any more. I think temps would also drop a degree or so after the AS5 sets. I would like to test with a quad core, but I'm not going to get one until after the third quarter price drops. That was the real reason for getting the Extreme 120.

I used small fft's, (as for me anyway,) this gives maximum temps. I have been running WCG with the Extreme 120 since yesterday, and my load temps are 47-48.

Also just some thoughts about the temps I've seen reported by others. I just find it hard to believe when I see load temps only 10 degrees above idle. Even when I was running water with my xp-m, (back in the old days ) load temps would be 15-20 degrees above idle.
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:57 AM   #2
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Your ambient seems to be very high m8.
As the ambient goes up your idle will go up. and if you dont have good airflow you wont get the 10C difference that many here are getting with U120 extremes. You are idling over 40.
I am yet to see mine even touch 55C under full load condition but i do have 93 cfm fan on it . But my case is well ventilated with 3x120mm and 2x 92mm.
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Old 05-06-2007, 10:00 AM   #3
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Thank you very much. I've been waiting for a Tuniq vs 120 extreme review.
I now know that i should buy a tuniq. The diffrence in the netherlands is 20 euro and that's only for 2 degrees. That's too much for me.
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Old 05-06-2007, 10:03 AM   #4
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Where do you see idle over 40 Idle is in the low 30's. My airflow is good. My case temp is only a few degrees over ambient room temp. I think everyone has a different idea of what load is
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Old 05-06-2007, 10:36 AM   #5
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ya my bad, i was looking at Ai suit temps.
But i dont get that much delta here. THis is only at 3.37Ghz but still
My CPU is lapped though. Dont know about yours.
difference in load temp is nowhere near to as large as yours.

oops posted wrong pic. will post again, forgot to take screenie before stopping orthos.
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Old 05-06-2007, 10:42 AM   #6
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Very nice comparo.. I ordered the U-120 to replace a big typhoon on my Q6600.. I hope to see some nice temps on this new cooler My load temps right now are at about 65c at 1.38v..
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Old 05-06-2007, 11:20 AM   #7
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Ok here is the recent run.
First Ran the orthos. Took the load temp. then stopped it and took temp again after 5 mins for idle.
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Load


There is nothing exceptional i have done here. Just lapped the cpu IHS. And cooler is in stock condition with TT blue LED fan on it.
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Old 05-06-2007, 11:47 AM   #8
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Wait a second, the Tuniq Idle picture shows 79C...simple goof maybe?
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Old 05-06-2007, 11:50 AM   #9
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Funky: Is that in a closed case? Which case? What's your case temp?
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Old 05-06-2007, 11:51 AM   #10
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Still I think Ultra Extreme 120 is rather expensive compared to Tuniq Tower 120 which already includes a fan as well. But performance wise Extreme 120 impresses me of course but not from a cost point of view. I would still rather choose a Tuniq Tower 120 today. Thx for the comparision.
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Guys, don't look at the asus suite. The temps jump all over the place with it. I was only using that to show voltage an frequency.

Funky, nice! Maybe I should match your clock and see what temps I get. I have checked the ihs, it's pretty flat. I have a 6400 and 6300 that I've lapped, those were way bad. I dropped 10 degrees on the 6400. Also, I should have stated that my e6600 is a 28B chip. They tend to run hotter.
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Old 05-06-2007, 01:04 PM   #12
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The Thermalright Extreme 120 is definitely the king of air cooler as of today. Sooner or later I'll get me the Xtreme 120 because it's smaller, lighter, and sexier

http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling...oc.aspx?i=2981
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The Thermalright Extreme 120 is definitely the king of air cooler as of today. Sooner or later I'll get me the Xtreme 120 because it's smaller, lighter, and sexier

http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling...oc.aspx?i=2981
Is that a good review?
Because I see that a tuniq beats a infinity with 2 fans with 10 degrees(load)!! Is that true?

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the Tuniq 120 load temp not online
or anybody has the same problem
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Old 05-06-2007, 02:16 PM   #15
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i can't see also the tuniq load pic
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Old 05-06-2007, 02:21 PM   #16
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There is nothing exceptional i have done here. Just lapped the cpu IHS. And cooler is in stock condition with TT blue LED fan on it.
Funky, which Vcore of yours is correct, Everest or CPU-Z? Are you running the same Vcore as OP?

Edit: I noticed they both fluctuate, have you measure actual vcore under load with a DMM? If the CPU-Z one is closer to true, then that is your temperature difference right there.
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Somethings up with image shack. I'll try and reload the tuniq shot.

EDIT: Look like it is working now.
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Old 05-06-2007, 03:01 PM   #18
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Funky, which Vcore of yours is correct, Everest or CPU-Z? Are you running the same Vcore as OP?

Edit: I noticed they both fluctuate, have you measure actual vcore under load with a DMM? If the CPU-Z one is closer to true, then that is your temperature difference right there.
My CPU is voltage lover
The CPU-Z is incorrect.
The Everest voltage is the correct voltage.
Its 1.44v in reality.
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Is that a good review?
Because I see that a tuniq beats a infinity with 2 fans with 10 degrees(load)!! Is that true?
Why is it not a good review? They probably used a weak dual 120mm, mine has a 79 cfm fan!
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My CPU is voltage lover
The CPU-Z is incorrect.
The Everest voltage is the correct voltage.
Its 1.44v in reality.
Rgr that! Just checkin'
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All this hoopla over 2C?

Still nobody has shown a head to head between the Ultra-120 X and TT120 with a high Vcore, high MHz Kentsfield. So the jury is still out as far as I am concerned.

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mmm. me too wood like to see some quad cooling results on air coolers.

but it's interesting to see that ultra extreme wins by a nose like i thought it wood.
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Hey Victor, send me one of yours and I'll test it.
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Hey Victor, send me one of yours and I'll test it.

How about you send me the HSF?

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my temps are cold @3,6 v-core@1,41V,thermalright ultra 120X with s-flex 1200min.

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