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04-28-2007, 02:27 PM
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My results using Unlapped IHS Storm Rev 2 vs D-Tek with Lapped IHS
TEMPS BEFORE Storm Rev 2.0

Idle 34C/33C

100% work load using TAT
50C/44C delta between cores 6C
CPU IHS not lapped
TEMPS AFTER D-TEK

Idle 32C/30C

100% work load using TAT
46C/45C delta between cores is 1C

Idle after 100% work load
33C/32C
D-Tek with a lapped IHS decreases temps using TAT at 100% by 3C-4C (when comparing both cores under load). What I noticed most is how both cores are getting roughly equal cooling when TAT workload is 100% using D-Tek vs Storm Rev 2.0. It would appear to me that the Storm Rev 2.0 works best with a single core (at least how I had it setup). Keep in mind that TAT is suppose to heat up the C2D more so then Orthos.
ITEMS USED
360 GT Rad
D5 Var pump
1/2 ID tubing
Ambient 22C
CPU IHS is lapped.
Hardware(screws, nuts, etc) from: Storm Rev 2.0
Side note:
When I lapped I did not find any deformation in the IHS. The IHS didn't appear to be concave nor convex from what I could see. The material was lapped evenly off. Look here
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04-28-2007, 02:32 PM
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So with the storm you didn't had lapped the CPU, and with the D-tek you have? that's not fair :P
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04-28-2007, 03:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barzi
So with the storm you didn't had lapped the CPU, and with the D-tek you have? that's not fair :P
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04-28-2007, 06:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barzi
So with the storm you didn't had lapped the CPU, and with the D-tek you have? that's not fair :P
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True that.
I also had the Storm before the Fuzion on my E6600, temps are much better now but it wouldn't be fair to compare as before with the Storm I was using a dual 120mm Swiftech rad and Arctic Silver 5. Now with the Fuzion I'm using a dual 120mm Weapon Heatercore and Arctic Cooling MX-1.
I'm not saying MX-1 is much better than AS5 but it's factor I changed.
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04-28-2007, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Makubex_GB
True that.
I also had the Storm before the Fuzion on my E6600, temps are much better now but it wouldn't be fair to compare as before with the Storm I was using a dual 120mm Swiftech rad and Arctic Silver 5. Now with the Fuzion I'm using a dual 120mm Weapon Heatercore and Arctic Cooling MX-1.
I'm not saying MX-1 is much better than AS5 but it's factor I changed.
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Because there was no deformity (IHS was neither convex or concave) found in the IHS when I lapped it is why I still posted it.
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04-28-2007, 09:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
Because there was no deformity (IHS was neither convex or concave) found in the IHS when I lapped it is why I still posted it.
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How do you know it didn't make a difference?
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04-28-2007, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by serialk11r
How do you know it didn't make a difference?
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In any case this test was the result of
A. Storm with a unlapped IHS
B. D-Tek with a lapped IHS
Take note of the core temps using the Storm and the D-Tek
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04-28-2007, 10:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
In any case this test was the result of
A. Storm with a unlapped IHS
B. D-Tek with a lapped IHS
Take note of the core temps using the Storm and the D-Tek
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You need to try the storm with the lapped processor now. You don't know if lapping makes a difference in performance or not.
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04-28-2007, 10:28 PM
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I don't think he's making any claims other than lapping AND the fuzion lowered temps. Nothing wrong with claiming that. He's not claiming the Fuzion is better than the Storm from what I read. You guys need to chill before jumping all over people in here when they post some results... take them for what they're worth.
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04-28-2007, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by virtualrain
I don't think he's making any claims other than lapping AND the fuzion lowered temps. Nothing wrong with claiming that. He's not claiming the Fuzion is better than the Storm from what I read. You guys need to chill before jumping all over people in here when they post some results... take them for what they're worth.
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04-29-2007, 02:15 AM
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true, but I'm still damn curious in the temps when the Storm would be used on the lapped cpu
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04-29-2007, 04:47 AM
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do it
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04-29-2007, 06:28 AM
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yah will wait patiently for results here.
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04-29-2007, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by virtualrain
I don't think he's making any claims other than lapping AND the fuzion lowered temps. Nothing wrong with claiming that. He's not claiming the Fuzion is better than the Storm from what I read. You guys need to chill before jumping all over people in here when they post some results... take them for what they're worth.
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Well then you need to re-read what he wrote:
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It would appear to me that the Storm Rev 2.0 works best with a single core (at least how I had it setup)
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I'm not disagreeing, as I think that statement is true, but not by his results.
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04-29-2007, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Makubex_GB
Well then you need to re-read what he wrote:
I'm not disagreeing, as I think that statement is true, but not by his results.
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It's obvious you are making a mountain out of a mole hill here. And, you contradict yourself.
1. Lapped IHS and D-Tek
2. Unlapped IHS and Storm Rev 2
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04-29-2007, 05:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
It's obvious you are making a mountain out of a mole hill here. And, you contradict yourself.
1. Lapped IHS and D-Tek
2. Unlapped IHS and Storm Rev 2
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I'm not contradicting myself at all and I'm not making a mountains out of a mole hill. I'm just saying this test doesn't have basis to judge the Storm's performance as you implied when you said:
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It would appear to me that the Storm Rev 2.0 works best with a single core (at least how I had it setup)
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With that statement you implied that by your results it appears that the Fuzion is better than the Storm for dual core CPUs, and that the Storm is better for single core CPUs.
Even though I agree with that the Fuzion is better, I don't agree to it by your tests because they are not fair. That's all I'm saying.
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04-29-2007, 07:49 PM
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Gotta do a lapped test...see best possible performance from the storm.
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04-29-2007, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Makubex_GB
I'm not contradicting myself at all and I'm not making a mountains out of a mole hill. I'm just saying this test doesn't have basis to judge the Storm's performance as you implied when you said:
With that statement you implied that by your results it appears that the Fuzion is better than the Storm for dual core CPUs, and that the Storm is better for single core CPUs.
Even though I agree with that the Fuzion is better, I don't agree to it by your tests because they are not fair. That's all I'm saying.
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You are making a mountain out of a mole hill and you do contradict yourself. You comprehend the results then you play dumb. I call that contradiction. And, you take one of my statements and interrupt it to me something that was not intended. But this is all because you are upset that I didn't produce results the way you want. The truth of the matter I already clarified all intentions of my post in the title and in other posts:
1. Lapped IHS & D-tek
VS
2. Non lapped IHS and Storm
I do not need your approval of what I have posted. As far as your disapproval, that's your problem. You need to find a better way to deal with it other then whine and complain.
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Originally Posted by virtualrain
I don't think he's making any claims other than lapping AND the fuzion lowered temps. Nothing wrong with claiming that. He's not claiming the Fuzion is better than the Storm from what I read. You guys need to chill before jumping all over people in here when they post some results... take them for what they're worth.
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If Virtualrain comprehends the post I created and takes it for what it's worth so should you. As he puts it there is not debate here and I never said one wb was better then another. This is something YOU are saying, not me. So why don't you create your own thread and produce the test results?
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04-29-2007, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
You are making a mountain out of a mole hill and you do contradict yourself. You comprehend the results then you play dumb. I call that contradiction. And, you take one of my statements and interrupt it to me something that was not intended. But this is all because you are upset that I didn't produce results the way you want. The truth of the matter I already clarified all intentions of my post in the title and in other posts:
1. Lapped IHS & D-tek
VS
2. Non lapped IHS and Storm
I do not need your approval of what I have posted. As far as your disapproval, that's your problem. You need to find a better way to deal with it other then whine and complain.
If Virtualrain comprehends the post I created and takes it for what it's worth so should you. As he puts it there is not debate here and I never said one wb was better then another. This is something YOU are saying, not me. So why don't you create your own thread and produce the test results?
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Okay then, you don't have to do any more tests but no one is going to care about your results. Why? Because your tests are what they're worth, close to zero. All we can see is that after lapping and putting on the D-tek, you saw improvements. Well, wasn't that to be expected...
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04-29-2007, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by serialk11r
Okay then, you don't have to do any more tests but no one is going to care about your results. Why? Because your tests are what they're worth, close to zero. All we can see is that after lapping and putting on the D-tek, you saw improvements. Well, wasn't that to be expected...
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How you think I should I completed this is not my problem.
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04-29-2007, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
You are making a mountain out of a mole hill and you do contradict yourself. You comprehend the results then you play dumb. I call that contradiction. And, you take one of my statements and interrupt it to me something that was not intended. But this is all because you are upset that I didn't produce results the way you want. The truth of the matter I already clarified all intentions of my post in the title and in other posts:
1. Lapped IHS & D-tek
VS
2. Non lapped IHS and Storm
I do not need your approval of what I have posted. As far as your disapproval, that's your problem. You need to find a better way to deal with it other then whine and complain.
If Virtualrain comprehends the post I created and takes it for what it's worth so should you. As he puts it there is not debate here and I never said one wb was better then another. This is something YOU are saying, not me. So why don't you create your own thread and produce the test results?
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I'm not contradicting and if you think I am then you are just not smart enough to get it. You don't make up what a contradiction is. I'm not making a mountain out of anything either. I'm not complaining or upset, but it seems that you are. I didn't want any results, I didn't even started this. I'm just saying it as it is. I'm taking a statement of yours that doesn't matter if it's posted with the rest of your paragraph or not, it still says the same. So it doesn't matter if it's interrupted. It still shows you made a statement out of an invalid basis. Apparently you can't get any of this. I don't care if you clarified the manner or not, since you kept the argument going when I wasn't even talking to you. You just can't admit you were wrong. My second post was directed at virtualrain and not at YOU, which is why I quoted HIM. I was correcting HIM.
Even if you don't need my approval you seem to get upset when people (not just me as you can see) tell you what they think about your results. If you don't want people's opinion then don't make a thread, because that's what it's for. You want us to take your tests for what they are worth, well as serialk11r said, right now they are close to zero.
Lapped IHS & D-tek VS Non lapped IHS and Storm... yeah that's great, good for you. But guess what (and here's the whole sentence without interruption):
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What I noticed most is how both cores are getting roughly equal cooling when TAT workload is 100% using D-Tek vs Storm Rev 2.0. It would appear to me that the Storm Rev 2.0 works best with a single core (at least how I had it setup)
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^Still worthless because you're basing that statement on your test but you lapped the CPU!
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04-29-2007, 10:04 PM
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The results are not a useful comparison between the two blocks. I think we can all agree on that.
Glad you got some improvements in temps EastCoast
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