MCW30 "hardmount" coming soon

gabe · 04-21-2007, 01:09 PM

The MCW30 "hardmount" hardware should be available next week.

The mounting system will be included at no extra charge with all MCW30's.

It works fantastic and really provides a perfectly sturdy mount which is no longer sensitive to lateral pressures caused by tubing. The spacers are threaded, leaving 2 permanent posts making it quite convenient for frequent install-uninstall.

EVGA owners need not be looking for a 4-point mount block for their NB any longer: this assembly is absolutely rock stable! On the SB the alternate mounting method also provides ample clearance for water-cooled 8800 GTX's without problems.

The hardware will also be available separately (for a few $) for those who want to upgrade.

I can't stress enough how pleased I am with this, any marketing hype aside.

Please don't ask me for further details or PM's just right now, I have too much to do already.. I just wanted to give you the good news.

MaxxxRacer · 04-21-2007, 01:19 PM

looking good.

i take it, the standoffs are appropriately sized for all mobos so that we dont end up crushing the NB?

Also, does hte MCW30 include any of the foam squares so that the waterblock cant tip over?

NaeKuh · 04-21-2007, 01:31 PM

OMG gabe! You realized that idea from my pics huh???

gabe · 04-21-2007, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer

looking good.

i take it, the standoffs are appropriately sized for all mobos so that we dont end up crushing the NB?

Also, does hte MCW30 include any of the foam squares so that the waterblock cant tip over?

Temporary install guide posted. some editing still needed.
Read page 2:
http://www.swiftech.com/products/ins...e_mcw30-hm.pdf

Can't tip the block over with this hard mount Maxx. Trust me, this thing is truly rock stable! Foam pads are not needed, but they are included with the spring mount pack anyways, since spring mount remains needed to accomodate IHS covered chipsets.

The "hardmount" is in addition to the existing hardware pack, not in replacement of.. courtesy yours truly :-)

I can't answer more questions just now. too much stuff to do. sorry.

MrToad · 04-21-2007, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer

Also, does hte MCW30 include any of the foam squares so that the waterblock cant tip over?

It would be a nice feature, but you can get 1 side 1mm thick medium density foam easily. At least in the UK.

Bear in mind that every time you re-mount the block you should clean the TIM. And no matter how careful you are, you end up making a mess of the foam in the process.

MaxxxRacer · 04-21-2007, 01:36 PM

Thanks for the info Gabe.

JeffnWV · 04-21-2007, 01:53 PM

I take it we gotta get this from swiftech? or will vendors send upgrade kits with new orders? I was gonna buy 1 or 2 of these chipset blocks monday...guess I need to wait a while

Aerou · 04-21-2007, 02:04 PM

great news, at last a hardmount so I dont need to make one myself!

nealh · 04-21-2007, 02:19 PM

so these stupid mobos with hooks(ala Badaxe2) cant have a hard mounting setup....crap

safan80 · 04-21-2007, 02:28 PM

edit: nevermind

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

The hardware will also be available separately (for a few $) for those who want to upgrade.

Polizei · 04-21-2007, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nealh

so these stupid mobos with hooks(ala Badaxe2) cant have a hard mounting setup....crap

I was about to prove you wrong and say my DFI Infinity 975X/G has holes around the NB, but, when I looked in, I was wrong. Damn hooks!

The SB has the holes though...wtf?

Mekrel · 04-21-2007, 04:36 PM

Cool,

Thanks for the info.

Got to admit, hand it to Swiftech when it comes to wide support.

8800 Backplate, also a back plate coming for bowed waterblocks, and now a new mount for MCW30.

Keep up the good work

nealh · 04-21-2007, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polizei

I was about to prove you wrong and say my DFI Infinity 975X/G has holes around the NB, but, when I looked in, I was wrong. Damn hooks!

The SB has the holes though...wtf?

I wish he had developed a system like there is on the microcool whisper xe block for hook mounting...using a post with spring and thumbscrew...

I never thought much about the hooks but what a stupid idea ..it so limiting

BTW: the MCW is now absolutely the best choice universal NB block...I love swiftech

jabski · 04-21-2007, 05:30 PM

nice. Will be ordering the upgrade once out

Lurid · 04-21-2007, 05:44 PM

Yep, same here. I'll now need to purchase the upgrade ;P

IanY · 04-21-2007, 08:59 PM

Bravo !! Its time !!

grudgelord · 04-21-2007, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

The MCW30 "hardmount" hardware should be available next week.

The mounting system will be included at no extra charge with all MCW30's.

Awwww rats!! And I just ordered one this week. I knew I should have waited.

commie · 04-22-2007, 07:23 AM

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That's great gabe but it doesn't solve the problem I had getting a secure mount for two mcw30s on the north and south bridges of my Asus P5N32-E SLI (this will apply to the Striker Extreme and P5N32-E SLI Plus as well)

The problems is caused by the mcw30 mounting brackets fouling capacitors on the motherboard. Here's a rough graphic to illustrate the problem

(The problem capacitors are marked by the evil smilies)

In order to mount the mcw30s at all it's necessary to rotate them to avoid fouling the capacitors.

However, although the mounting hole centre pitch in the mobo stays at 53mm, by rotating the mcw30s this increases the distance between where you can attach them on the mounting brackets to about 56mm.

So the mounting bolts now have to be flared outwards to accomodate this and as a consequence are not perpendicular to the plane of the mobo, but at an angle to the perpendicular.

This in turn means that the mcw30s are not mounted completely squarely and securely onto the chipsets and are vulnerable to lateral forces from the tubing.

The fixed threaded mounting posts will not help this situation at all, in fact they may make it impossible to attach the mcw30s to this type of mobo because these posts will be perfectly perpendicular at 53mm apart.

If you could offer mounting brackets with about half of the mounting hole centre pitch range, say 53mm - 56mm rather than 53mm - 60mm, thereby reducing the distance that the mounting bracket lugs stick out sideways, this would fix the capacitor fouling problem and allow owners of this type of mobo to mount their mcw30s squarely and securely.

Hope this makes sense to you.

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phelan1777 · 04-22-2007, 08:20 AM

grrrrr where was this a month ago?

gabe · 04-23-2007, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commie

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That's great gabe but it doesn't solve the problem I had getting a secure mount for two mcw30s on the north and south bridges of my Asus P5N32-E SLI (this will apply to the Striker Extreme and P5N32-E SLI Plus as well)

The problems is caused by the mcw30 mounting brackets fouling capacitors on the motherboard. Here's a rough graphic to illustrate the problem
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We have .120" thick spacers that can mount between the bracket and the body, effectively raising the brackets by .120". This will provide ample clearance for the caps. Raising kit would include 6 spacers, 4 for the brackets and 2 more to stack with the hardmount spacers, as well as 4 longer screws. You can also DIY this by procuring nylon spacers 240 OD x 125 ID x 120 Height, and 4 1/2" 4-40 socket screws.

gabe · 04-23-2007, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan1777

grrrrr where was this a month ago?

It was in my subconscious mind, getting ready to pop out

here are some real life pics of the assembly on the EVGA board:

also: couple extra days delay I just found out. vendor needs to die the nylon black per our specs :-(

[cTx] Nooc · 04-23-2007, 06:00 PM

he he pictured with stock swiftech barbs, oh those horrid stock barbs

V I P E R · 04-24-2007, 12:29 AM

What abouth the chipsets with hooks like 975. I brought one MCW30 a few months ago but the mounting was a nightmare and I sold the block.

virtualrain · 04-24-2007, 01:02 AM

Yeah, the new DFI 680i has these damn loops as well. You will need to use a DD block like this (RD600 board shown)...

Link to DD Block

It's quite possible that those style of hooks with thumbscrews might actually fit through the mounting slots on a MCW30... it would be nice to see Swiftech offer something like this or better.

NaeKuh · 04-24-2007, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commie

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That's great gabe but it doesn't solve the problem I had getting a secure mount for two mcw30s on the north and south bridges of my Asus P5N32-E SLI (this will apply to the Striker Extreme and P5N32-E SLI Plus as well)

The problems is caused by the mcw30 mounting brackets fouling capacitors on the motherboard. Here's a rough graphic to illustrate the problem

(The problem capacitors are marked by the evil smilies)

In order to mount the mcw30s at all it's necessary to rotate them to avoid fouling the capacitors.

However, although the mounting hole centre pitch in the mobo stays at 53mm, by rotating the mcw30s this increases the distance between where you can attach them on the mounting brackets to about 56mm.

So the mounting bolts now have to be flared outwards to accomodate this and as a consequence are not perpendicular to the plane of the mobo, but at an angle to the perpendicular.

This in turn means that the mcw30s are not mounted completely squarely and securely onto the chipsets and are vulnerable to lateral forces from the tubing.

The fixed threaded mounting posts will not help this situation at all, in fact they may make it impossible to attach the mcw30s to this type of mobo because these posts will be perfectly perpendicular at 53mm apart.

If you could offer mounting brackets with about half of the mounting hole centre pitch range, say 53mm - 56mm rather than 53mm - 60mm, thereby reducing the distance that the mounting bracket lugs stick out sideways, this would fix the capacitor fouling problem and allow owners of this type of mobo to mount their mcw30s squarely and securely.

Hope this makes sense to you.

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i think this problem is only on the asus.

I didnt run into any cap problem on my evga.

Infact this is the picture i showed gabe, when he got his spark.

the top screw is mounted flush with nut at bottom. The bottom one is regular mounted special way. I realized by having one mount hard mounted, its easier to mount the block because you only have 1 moving corner now.

Also i +1 the DD maze4 on the NB. I also had absolutely no issues... well minus 1 resistor on the corner, but a spacer was all it needed.

and hehe brass nuts own.