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Old 03-13-2007, 02:28 PM   #1
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Identify THIS RAD! sold to me as a Thermochill PA120.1

So I buy an alleged Thermochill PA120.1 rad from this guy online

it arrives and it doesnt look like it in anyway. I only paid $25 bucks but thats beyond the point, he told me it was a PA120.1

its not right? I dont see the bleed screw and I've never seen any of those protruding ridges from the bottom like that.

help me out guys... lets get to the bottom of this




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Old 03-13-2007, 02:30 PM   #2
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Don't know what it is but it sure ain't no Thermochill PA 120.
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:31 PM   #3
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Its a Hardware Labs product. One of the Black Ice series. The shape itself says that its no Thermochill. Thermochills also do not have a gloss finish.. they usually have a matte finish.
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:32 PM   #4
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I believe thats a HW Labs Black Ice. What model I don't exactly know I can't seen the fin spacing or the exact depth of the rad. Do you have the exact dimensions (in mm)?

Edit: Looks like IanY got to the answer before me
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:34 PM   #5
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It's a BIP. Those barbs won't fit into anything else.
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:35 PM   #6
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Uh, my BIP has no ridges. Maybe old version(mines 18 months old). BIP is not that thick either. BIX? nope.


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Old 03-13-2007, 02:36 PM   #7
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yea its def. not a thermochill

I just wanted confirmation from you guys

thanks a bunch, ill let u guys know what the seller says
if you guys care

but thanks
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:41 PM   #8
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Ebay job? If you left feedback than och, if you havent flame the sodding (you know the rest)
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:54 PM   #9
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Looks more like a MagiCool ( a copycat of HardwareLabs Black Ice series )
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:55 PM   #10
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Ouch, sorry to hear you got ripped. That definitely isn't a thermochill.
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Old 03-13-2007, 03:26 PM   #11
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Old 03-13-2007, 03:56 PM   #12
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im almost shure its a magicool xtreme single 120.
hard to find pics of the magicool rads from every side so im not fully shure.

they are a black ice knock off with 1 big diffrence.
the fan mounting plates (no idea what to call it) have a diffrent shape then the black ice rads do.

anyway the magicool xtreme costs 25.49 euro overhere the Thermochill 120.1 costs 69.99.

so some bastard tried to scam you.
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Old 03-13-2007, 04:06 PM   #13
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At this point, you may just have to file a chargeback on your CC, open a claim saying he mislead you.

Sorry for your misfortune, buddy. I've been there before, and it's not a nice road to wander down.

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Old 03-13-2007, 04:09 PM   #14
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Definitely a magicool ( verified it ).
Damn, and they're cheap, even for what you paid
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Old 03-13-2007, 04:31 PM   #15
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Here are some pics from an actual PA120.1

They won't win a pulitzer, but I've just taken them now in a rush. Still enough to tell the difference between the real thing and what you've got.









By the way, one of the easiest way to spot a Thermochill is the bleeding screw on the top. A clever implementation that doesn't seem to transpire to other manufacturers
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Old 03-13-2007, 04:34 PM   #16
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that damn bastard, yea i verified as a magicool as well, what a POS!

I filed a claim with paypal and PMed him on hardforums
thats where I got it. Oh wells if I lose my $25 bucks, at least he cant trade anymore...

and thanks for the pics MrToad
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Old 03-13-2007, 04:44 PM   #17
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My pleasure.

If the guy was to sell a fake, at least it could have been a good fake rather than... that.

Mind you, with the price copper goes for nowadays, you might be able to make your money back by selling it as scrap

A spark friend is now having a nice holiday with his partner in Barbados thanks to the copper wire he's been collecting from decommissioned installations and scrap from industrial deployments.
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Old 03-13-2007, 06:38 PM   #18
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Dude if it was a guy at H, start a thread at [H] Tips, Tricks, and Trolls section if he doesn't communicate back and refuses to pay.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:50 PM   #19
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Even a blind man could tell the difference. What was he thinking??
Just make sure he doesn;t sell anything else...
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