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Old 02-12-2007, 03:53 PM   #1
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Arrow Delta Fans Finally At Newegg, Along With Some Others

I was looking through Newegg's selection of fans, and I noticed "Rexus" Fans being sold and I thought, "Don't they mean Nexus?". Turns out its not a rip-off of Vantec's line of Nexus silent fans, but Rexus is actually a well known manufacturer. They make the NZXT line of cases, and they make PSUs, cables, enclosures, input devices, and tons of other components; many of which Newegg sells.

Even though none of the fans are made by Rexus, they ARE manufactured by Delta, Panaflo, AddA, and JMC/Datech. The two Delta models being sold are current models, but all the Panaflo models are the older ones and I suspect as much for the AddA and JMC/Datech too. The prices don’t reflect that fact though, as the Panaflo fans are $20 to $13.

I’m going to guess Rexus needed to get rid of their stock of older and overstocked on some other current fan models, and sold them off cheap to anyone who would buy them so they could make the room for a supply of new models.

If this means that someone new is going to be supplying a fresh stock of the new Panaflos (and perhaps more Delta models) to resellers like Newegg, then this could be good for those of us who know the difference between the old and the new models, but bad for the common simple minded consumer on which most of Newegg’s business is based on unfortunately. Still, the older models being sold are still good fans… but they aren’t worth those prices.

92x38mm Delta Fan
Great performance fan that pushes +9mmH20 of air pressure at just under 80CFM at 46dba, which means it has the most air pressure verses CFM and noise level, when compared to everything else in that size at Newegg.com. (Air pressure is how hard a fan pushes the air. So a fan with low air pressure won’t push much air through a heatsink cooler, while a fan with a lot of air pressure will do it well.) It’d be good for overclocking, servers, etc. Just tame it if you use it on a rig that doesn’t normally need the extra power.

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70mm fans are usually used on smaller CPU coolers in PCs and servers. Despite its size, it does probably the best air pressure of all their selection of 70mm fans at Newegg. It’d probably be useful in a server application, or again for overclocking. Its small, so it could also be used to cool other things in your case, like memory or a video card, or to help guide the airflow in a case. Would be a good idea to tame it down a tiny bit to benefit from that air pressure without the unneeded high output, unless the noise doesn’t matter.

Yep... no 120mm models. All these fans are being sold as "Rexus" fans, not by the actual brand name. I got kind of a love hate thing going with this news. It sucks that they're selling old models, but this might mean that Newegg will start selling other Delta models in the future. Guess I'll have to wait and see.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:30 PM   #2
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boo for no 120mm...Wonder why they left those out
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Old 02-12-2007, 07:47 PM   #3
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the 70mm which i would have needed is out of stock
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:02 PM   #4
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I was looking through Newegg's selection of fans, and I noticed "Rexus" Fans being sold and I thought, "Don't they mean Nexus?". Turns out its not a rip-off of Vantec's line of Nexus silent fans, but Rexus is actually a well known manufacturer. They make the NZXT line of cases, and they make PSUs, cables, enclosures, input devices, and tons of other components; many of which Newegg sells.
Rexus don't make anything, they are just a low level distributor (High level would be Techdata or ASI)
There website is http://www.rexuscorp.com/
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Uh... I hate to break it to you but,

"REXUS CORP is recognized as one of the premier power supply providers. We are devoted to manufacturing and developing power supply and chassis for every computer user. Utilizing our technical expertise and innovative designs, we are constantly expanding our product line to offer advanced computer peripherals to meet the personal and industrial needs of modern computer users.

REXUS' mission is to produce the top quality thermal solutions on the market. We produce quality products that help you keep your system cool. Our primary goal is to create viable solutions to satisfy the consumers' needs."


Thats quoted from their web page. LOL
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:47 PM   #6
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:53 PM   #7
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i wish someone would make a really awesome 3 blade fan, only because i think they look really cool
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Old 02-13-2007, 09:13 PM   #8
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Awfully suspicious the way Yate Loon Provides no info on air pressure measurements...

Without air pressure, all of its stats mean zilch. The fact that they're so quiet could be an omen... because air pressure makes noise. Thats the problem with a lot of quiet fans, they have little air pressure and can't actully push that air if there's any obsticles or resistance, but of course none of the manufacturers who make their money on quiet fans would ever warn you about that... and then some idiot who spent $20 per a fan wonders why everything is overheating. LOL (I've seen them complain about this without knowing whats wrong on various store sites with customer reviews.)

The funny part is, a lot of these companies are making loads of cash on really poor quality fans, that are sold for so much cash BECAUSE of their low specs. Its the best scam I've ever seen. Really it is. Im not saying Yate Loon is one, but I'd like to see someone take turns filling a thick garbage bag up with air with different fans, and see which fans fill the bag up with the most volume. Or you could do the ball tube test, where a fan has to blow a ball up a tube, and you measure how high each fan holds the ball steadily.
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Old 02-13-2007, 09:30 PM   #9
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....complementary earmuffs with those deltas? 46dba is vewwy noisy...i can hear 36 dba from the other end of my house great air flow...good for people who are deaf or who have hermetically soundproofed cases.
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and then some idiot who spent $20 per a fan wonders why everything is overheating. LOL (I've seen them complain about this without knowing whats

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yeah alright ..but i think you wood want to turn down that 92x38mm delta a bit....well i would for noise anyway.

and i would also not touch anything with no spec.
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Uh... I hate to break it to you but,

"REXUS CORP is recognized as one of the premier power supply providers. We are devoted to manufacturing and developing power supply and chassis for every computer user. Utilizing our technical expertise and innovative designs, we are constantly expanding our product line to offer advanced computer peripherals to meet the personal and industrial needs of modern computer users.

REXUS' mission is to produce the top quality thermal solutions on the market. We produce quality products that help you keep your system cool. Our primary goal is to create viable solutions to satisfy the consumers' needs."


Thats quoted from their web page. LOL
I hate to break it to you, I can put that on any web page and it doesn't make it true.. They are a one man band and they buy products in China and brand them as there own, they do not own any factories or manufacture anything.. I know the owner, he's called Lucas and used to work for another distro called AOCUSA.
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Okay... thats fine. I was using common sense and going by what the webpage read.

Settle down. LOL
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Old 02-14-2007, 02:33 PM   #14
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Check out sidewindercomputers - they have the biggest range of Delta fans in stock I have ever seen. And even though I'm from the UK I have ordered from them before. Very good site.
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Oh, now you went and got me started on them again! Avoid them like the plague!

Sidewinder computers has a pretty good scam going with their single channel fan controllers. LOL Have you seen what they charge for those things!? Just the 25w is $29 and don't even give you a nob for it! And they have the nerve to make some cheap plastic nob a $5 option! ROFL

I tried emailing Sidewinder Computers about this, and how potentiometers aren't even efficient because they get really hot and just add heat to your case, compared to much more efficient controllers.

I tried to be polite in the email, but they sent me a really rude snobby reply. They told me that I obviously don't know what I'm talking about, and went on and on about how efficient that part was, using a bunch of big words.

I've since been looking for another website to do business with, cause those guys are just @SSHOLES. A lot of their prices for other components suck too, and they don't really have that great of a selection to begin with. They don't even carry that nice Sunbeam RHK model, while nearly everyone else has it. They probably just wanted to just push their sh*tty potentiometers.

The Sunbeam 4 channel RHK, with 20 watts PER a channel and oversize heatsinks per channel, costs about the same as just ONE of their 25w potentiometers.

But for now, they DO have the widest selection of current Delta models... so order from them if thats all you need. Just don't order anything else from them. LOL
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btw, i have 2 of those 70mm deltas.... came off amd retail heatsinks
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Oh, now you went and got me started on them again! Avoid them like the plague!

Sidewinder computers has a pretty good scam going with their single channel fan controllers. LOL Have you seen what they charge for those things!? Just the 25w is $29 and don't even give you a nob for it! And they have the nerve to make some cheap plastic nob a $5 option! ROFL

I tried emailing Sidewinder Computers about this, and how potentiometers aren't even efficient because they get really hot and just add heat to your case, compared to much more efficient controllers.

I tried to be polite in the email, but they sent me a really rude snobby reply. They told me that I obviously don't know what I'm talking about, and went on and on about how efficient that part was, using a bunch of big words.

I've since been looking for another website to do business with, cause those guys are just @SSHOLES. A lot of their prices for other components suck too, and they don't really have that great of a selection to begin with. They don't even carry that nice Sunbeam RHK model, while nearly everyone else has it. They probably just wanted to just push their sh*tty potentiometers.

The Sunbeam 4 channel RHK, with 20 watts PER a channel and oversize heatsinks per channel, costs about the same as just ONE of their 25w potentiometers.

But for now, they DO have the widest selection of current Delta models... so order from them if thats all you need. Just don't order anything else from them. LOL
Their custom made potentiometers. What other fan controller will handle 25W or 50W? The 50W isn't matched anywhere last I checked. Their prices are high and I agree however their delta selection can't really be beat.
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yes, wire-wound potentiometers also known as rehostats, they generate heat since all they do is create resistance
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yes, wire-wound potentiometers also known as rehostats, they generate heat since all they do is create resistance
Exactly! They are an innificiant technology thats been around for decades. If you need more than 20 and its important, then yeah I guess. But I can only immagine how much heat that 50w potentiometer must generate. Damn, you'd need a heatsink and a fan just for the controller. LOL
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Oh, now you went and got me started on them again! Avoid them like the plague!

I tried emailing Sidewinder Computers about this, and how potentiometers aren't even efficient because they get really hot and just add heat to your case, compared to much more efficient controllers.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the RHK uses potentiometers, too...

And they say they use Ohmite rheostats. If you look up 25 watt Ohmite rheostats you'll notice they are $25 each. So I am going to say that $29 for the rheostat + sleeved Molexes isn't exactly a "scam."
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Oh, now you went and got me started on them again! Avoid them like the plague!

Sidewinder computers has a pretty good scam going with their single channel fan controllers. LOL Have you seen what they charge for those things!? Just the 25w is $29 and don't even give you a nob for it! And they have the nerve to make some cheap plastic nob a $5 option! ROFL

I tried emailing Sidewinder Computers about this, and how potentiometers aren't even efficient because they get really hot and just add heat to your case, compared to much more efficient controllers.

I tried to be polite in the email, but they sent me a really rude snobby reply. They told me that I obviously don't know what I'm talking about, and went on and on about how efficient that part was, using a bunch of big words.

I've since been looking for another website to do business with, cause those guys are just @SSHOLES. A lot of their prices for other components suck too, and they don't really have that great of a selection to begin with. They don't even carry that nice Sunbeam RHK model, while nearly everyone else has it. They probably just wanted to just push their sh*tty potentiometers.

The Sunbeam 4 channel RHK, with 20 watts PER a channel and oversize heatsinks per channel, costs about the same as just ONE of their 25w potentiometers.

But for now, they DO have the widest selection of current Delta models... so order from them if thats all you need. Just don't order anything else from them. LOL

they get hot because reostats use resistance to absorb the amperage that would otherwise be going to the fan. they do this by converting current to heat.

go back to school pls.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the RHK uses potentiometers, too...

And they say they use Ohmite rheostats. If you look up 25 watt Ohmite rheostats you'll notice they are $25 each. So I am going to say that $29 for the rheostat + sleeved Molexes isn't exactly a "scam."
May I ask, why would someone need a 25 Watt rheostat? What type of fans are attached that would require such a rating? Thanks.
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May I ask, why would someone need a 25 Watt rheostat? What type of fans are attached that would require such a rating? Thanks.

All of the high end Deltas. Take a look at http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/de12gf.html I've got one and the 50w Rheostat to control it as it sucks in 32w. look around Sidewinder's Delta section. many of the higher end Deltas pull enough power to fry conventional controllers.

Even the ones that only take 18-20w steady state pull enough current on startup that I've had them kill Sunbeams before.
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yeah. i got my 220cfm 120mm from side winder as well (got two so i can clam shell my zalman) and yes, they are very noisy. and my fan mate 2 controller lasted ohhhh about 90 seconds before it started to "smoke and smell" when trying to control the fan speed.
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