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08-18-2006, 05:28 AM
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Compact SC autocascade (my first)
hi
this is my next ss
compressor is SC18G (3/4hp)
case dimensions
lenght - 50cm
width - 23cm
height - 24cm
regards
Last edited by Duniek; 10-05-2006 at 12:45 AM.
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08-18-2006, 08:11 AM
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Wow, SC18G is chill, first pic doesn't work for me... What refrigerant are you gonna charge with?
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08-18-2006, 09:02 AM
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Wow, SC18G is chill, first pic doesn't work for me... What refrigerant are you gonna charge with?
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maybe r402a, maybe r404a, maybe cyclopropane  (~80 euro/kg)
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08-18-2006, 09:14 AM
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Okay, Cyclopropane = -32,9 degs celsius boilong point? Isn't that a bit warm?
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08-18-2006, 02:25 PM
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my fault
this isn't cyclopropane but this gas is condensing @ ~25bar @ 45*C
and vapor @ ~ -70*C @ 0 bar
I don't remember name this gas
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08-18-2006, 02:29 PM
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Sounds good  How about load handling?
Edit: 80 euros/kg is pretty damn expensive right? Blend with r402a maybe?
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08-21-2006, 08:32 AM
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boring front of case
in next ss I make another front if I buy dremel
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10-01-2006, 04:45 AM
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project is alive
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10-01-2006, 05:13 AM
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Condesnor is massive!!! Should be good for cooling it all down, no coil need then i guess.
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10-01-2006, 09:22 AM
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He's also using a large copmressor, I'd still put in the coil for vibration dampening though.
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10-02-2006, 02:49 AM
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guys from polish forum suggested me, in order to I make a autocascade.
hmmm, OK
parts for phase separator, interstage hx, slhx, I will use cpev for both stages
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10-02-2006, 03:45 AM
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looks sweet, willing to see more
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10-02-2006, 04:15 AM
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I would suggest to not use cpev in first autocascade, even for both stages.
What gas you gonna use ? If CO2 as low stage gas, cpev is really bad choice.
I think you should start with captubes, too much load changes for cpev...of course I`m suggesting you, you will do what you want
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10-02-2006, 05:00 AM
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gas will be r404a/r23
i use cpev for 2 stage
for 1 stage i will use txv or cpev
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10-20-2006, 08:12 AM
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little update

evap

42mm plugs

brazed phase separator
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10-20-2006, 05:13 PM
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10-20-2006, 05:26 PM
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Awesome duniek, but your already going to have large problems with your gas selection, I hope you can figure it out from this comment.
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10-20-2006, 08:48 PM
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good luck with the auto-C.
like the 42mm plugs, i had some similar done once.
did you put some copper wool in the seperator?
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10-20-2006, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kayl
good luck with the auto-C.
like the 42mm plugs, i had some similar done once.
did you put some copper wool in the seperator?
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Why copper?
Whats wrong with basic (cheap) steel wool?
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10-20-2006, 09:00 PM
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Steel wool is very hard to keep from bursting into flames or oxidizing.
ALSO: CPEV may not work the way your wanting it to, it sets the suction pressure, and therefore you'll get an average between the two CPEV's when you don't want that.
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10-20-2006, 10:23 PM
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don`t use R4xx gas, as I talked with NoL, it will separate...
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10-21-2006, 05:36 AM
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Even with R170 gaz? That's the question I was asking to myself...
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10-21-2006, 08:52 AM
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Even with R170 gas...
R402/R404a or other R4xx gases are mix of two or more gasses, with different P/T charts...
So, there is possibility, that in phase separator R4xx will separate, half of it will go to evap, and second half to HX
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10-21-2006, 09:44 AM
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And since r404a is r507 and r134a, whichever is lighter is most likely to seperate out.
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10-29-2006, 07:15 AM
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hello
updates
yesterday night I brazed evap

and
cleaned

with insiluation (horrible looking holldown is temporary of course  )
and I make 2 in 1 HX
suction acumulator (42mm pipe) with discharge acumulators (2x15mm pipe inside 42mm)
regards
EDIT:
I used bigger evap than I show in #15 post
It's on right on photo
Last edited by Duniek; 10-29-2006 at 08:37 AM.
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