Thermalright XP120 + DFI nF4 SLI-DR - Page 2

tjj · 01-23-2005, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

I talked to Oskar yesterday, he told me that, the LP nf4 is a bit different from most 939 boards in terms of the way you plug in your ram sticks in as dual channel.
** Make sure you plug in 1,3 or 2,4. And if you don't mind, I would say 2,4 will get greater performance than 1,3!

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daniel734 · 01-23-2005, 03:47 AM

is the pink ones #1 and #3 and the yellow 2,4 or is the other way around?

tjj · 01-23-2005, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel734

is the pink ones #1 and #3 and the yellow 2,4 or is the other way around?

it's the other way around, afaiu

Marquzz · 01-23-2005, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel734

so, its possible to mount rams on all sockets except the one closest to the CPU if u have the right skills?
did i get it right?

lol my rams, xms 3200 xl pro is 45 mm tall!
is there hope? somehow?

That is if you mount the XP so it's heatpipes are towards the mem slots.

I would say that maximum height for mems is about 40mm to fit under the XP hs. There is a chance for you, and that is if you mount the HS with heatpipes towards the slots and mount your modules in slot 1 & 3. Have to get back to you on that one.

daniel734 · 01-23-2005, 03:55 AM

sure? ok. thanks...
I'd really appreciate if u'd try that. Mounting the xp120 with heatpipes towards the RAM and then measuring the max height. By max hight I mean height OVER the plastic socket, which is pink or yellow in this case.

And I will measure what height my 45mm RAMs need over the socket when placed into sockets.

Thanks for all!

EDIT: My RAMs need at least 42-43 mm of space over the sockets to fit.

daniel734 · 01-23-2005, 10:21 AM

bump*

Marquzz · 01-23-2005, 10:44 AM

Good news everyone, you have a package....I mean, there's no problem with your modules in slot 3, but you cannot fit any mem in slot 4 and the margin to the gfx-card is drastically redused.

daniel734 · 01-23-2005, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Marquzz

Good news everyone, you have a package....I mean, there's no problem with your modules in slot 3, but you cannot fit any mem in slot 4 and the margin to the gfx-card is drastically redused.

I love you!! thanks!
so ill be able to use my high 2*512Mb corsairs in slot 3 and 1 then?!??!
tack sÃ¥ jÃ¤vla mycket marquzz, jÃ¤ttesnÃ¤llt av dig!!

no, im not gay.

daniel734 · 01-23-2005, 11:05 AM

Hmm.. ur RAM with heatsinks cant be much higher than 35mm, mine are 45mm. Are mine gonna touch the xp120, looks like it. but i think i can bend em a smal fraction anyway, what you guys think?

tjj · 01-23-2005, 11:12 AM

damn, no 2-4 dual channel with XP120..

uhm, well.. 1-3 should work out anyway.

Heeey, marquzz.. thanx for testing, appreciate it

flexy · 01-23-2005, 12:29 PM

what are you talking about ??

Didnt he say you cannot use slot 4 *only* when the pipes face the memory ?

If you turn the HSF the other way round you can fit ALL modules.

Is there a reason you WANT to put the HSF that way so the pipes face the memory ? If not...then just turn it around and have more clearance towards the card AND can fit all modules.

Please clear that issue up....in his first pictures with the pipes the other way it looks like there is no problem at all with the Xp-120 !

Q: If the pipes face the card, can you fit in ANY module in any slot ?
A: ( ) yes ( ) no

Q: Is there a reason to have the pipes facing the memory ?
A: ....

daniel734 · 01-23-2005, 12:40 PM

read the whole thread...
mY mems are to high for the xp120 to face the gfx.. see.. i i cant get my ram under there.. cuz the mems in the pic is 32mm tall and mine are 45mm!!! so if i should be able to us the xp120 at all i need to have the heatpipes to face the ram. see?

tjj · 01-23-2005, 12:51 PM

ya, seee?

lol..

flexy, marquzz placed XP-120 every possible way, HSF rotated, moved, etc.. The pipes would touch the GFX the other way, look at the size left.. You can't use 4-th DIMM slot.

Orker · 01-23-2005, 02:32 PM

thanks for those pics of the xp120 fitting... i just hope i can fit a ddr booster under there

cantankerous · 01-23-2005, 02:32 PM

hmmm if this is going to be a problem perhaps an XP-90 would be better unless someone could recommend something else. I would like to use 2 + 4 as oskar stated those are better for performance. I also would like to be able to switch dimms if need be and not have my vid card in the way.

daniel734 · 01-23-2005, 02:42 PM

but i mean how do we know its better with slots 2 and 4??? cuz someone said so.. and ONLY this person.. I havent seen a thread that goes.. Must put dimms in 2 and 4 cuz it sux in 1 and 3.. if that actually was the case then its a mobo error nothing else.. In 1 case perhaps 2 and 4 was like 1% better but i mean.. come on...

flexy · 01-23-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tjj

ya, seee?

lol..

flexy, marquzz placed XP-120 every possible way, HSF rotated, moved, etc.. The pipes would touch the GFX the other way, look at the size left.. You can't use 4-th DIMM slot.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=23067

where do the pipes touch the graphics ?

madgamer · 01-23-2005, 05:45 PM

I'm with flexy here. I would say that it would appear that all 4 slots are usable with the pipes facing the card, and 3 are usable with the pipes over the ram. I think what was confusing is he mentioned that with the pipes toward the card the heatsink hangs over the ram slots making it to where you would have to mount the ram before the heatsink if you wanted to use some of the slots.

cantankerous · 01-23-2005, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel734

but i mean how do we know its better with slots 2 and 4??? cuz someone said so.. and ONLY this person.. I havent seen a thread that goes.. Must put dimms in 2 and 4 cuz it sux in 1 and 3.. if that actually was the case then its a mobo error nothing else.. In 1 case perhaps 2 and 4 was like 1% better but i mean.. come on...

It was Oskar himself who said this. He is one of the main guys who designed this board and not to mention is the main bios coder for this board as well. Do you not think this particular one person would know best?

Hombre · 01-24-2005, 04:32 AM

So to sum this up, you can use slots 2+4 when the XP120 pipes are facing the vga?
And daniel734, It's a shame that you slight Oskarwu.

Marquzz · 01-24-2005, 04:46 AM

Ok, it seemes that appearantly I wasn't clear enough so here is a short sum up:

With pipes facing the gfx:
All 4 slots usable, though max ram height is about 40mm, are your modules taller you just can't fit them under there. And if your rams are taller then about 32mm you can't mount them after HS is mounted, and due to the way the HS is mounted (you tip it over towards the slots to get those hooks in the holder) it's going to be quite hard to mount it when rams are already in slots.

Pros: All 4 slots can be populated
Cons: Max ram height is 40mm for slot 3 & 4

With pipes facing the slots:
Slot 1-3 can now be populated with ram with any height. But HS is going to be close to the gfx which could lead to problem with some third parts cooling for gfx. And slot 4 cannot hold any ram, not even low profile.

Pros: slot 3 can now hold high ram modules
Cons: Slot 4 cannot hold any module at all and HS is very close to gfx.

Hoped I cleared everything out now

daniel734 · 01-24-2005, 07:21 AM

sorry guys, but im kind of a noob here at xtreme.org. sorry. But is it wrong of me to ask? Perhaps I was a bit unsensitive. My bad. Instead of asking the question - who is this guy and why should i believe him - I should have asked the following:
How much will putting the RAMs in slot 1 & 3 affect my computer preformance and OC?
And why?
Shouldn't the 2 pairs be identical?

Sorry guys, didnt mean to offend anyone. =/

tjj · 01-24-2005, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel734

sorry guys, but im kind of a noob here at xtreme.org. sorry. But is it wrong of me to ask? Perhaps I was a bit unsensitive. My bad. Instead of asking the question - who is this guy and why should i believe him - I should have asked the following:
How much will putting the RAMs in slot 1 & 3 affect my computer preformance and OC?
And why?
Shouldn't the 2 pairs be identical?

Sorry guys, didnt mean to offend anyone. =/

damn, ur still going about it?

Look m8, it wasn't Oskar Wu who suggested using 2/4 instead of 1/3, it was OPB (but, uhm.. maybe it's from Oskars recommendation?).. Just RELAX.. it would run just a smooth as in 1/3. Well, there are cases, when u have to swap RAM, if you have some OC incompatibilties (MSI).. But DFI board? I'm sure everything would work out OK for u..

Juspriss · 01-24-2005, 08:21 AM

Lol, just for few mms

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Hey guys anyone have tested that mobo ( SLI-DR or SLI-D)?

Regards

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daniel734 · 01-24-2005, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tjj

damn, ur still going about it?

Look m8, it wasn't Oskar Wu who suggested using 2/4 instead of 1/3, it was OPB (but, uhm.. maybe it's from Oskars recommendation?).. Just RELAX.. it would run just a smooth as in 1/3. Well, there are cases, when u have to swap RAM, if you have some OC incompatibilties (MSI).. But DFI board? I'm sure everything would work out OK for u..

sorry tjj.

But I wouln't call myself rich, so money is definately a factor for me.
Buying incompatible parts is not only annoying but also expensive.

Well I thank you all for the help!
And Im sure my(our) DFI board(s) will rock.