Asus P6T Deluxe Discussion Thread

[mitmot]

Anyone know what the safe limits are for the i7-980x for TDP/TDC?

[vodka3dg]

nice app! it sometimes crashes my system though, but it is looking to be a very powerful tool for when i get my water up and runing

that's some whooping performance increase congrats!!

[roki977]

I am having stability problems with 203 blck and higher . It is old deluxe v1 with 2101 bios . Mine i7 950 was stable on ud5 209x23 , but with this board no luck over 203. It doesn't matter how much cpu voltage i use or any other.
I tried everything i know . So could someone recommend me the best bios for deluxe v1 and give me download link. Thx.

[unclewebb]

0006 was a popular bios for the P6T Deluxe v1 boards.
http://www.mediafire.com/?00qfon2wlkd

[vodka3dg]

throttleing at 210x21 1.43v

can i mod my P6TD Deluxe to 0006 modded bios? i am using a xeon w3520.

thnx!

--- never mind, was using turbo ---

[kup]

OK, I've been playing around with 0006 and I've added the CPU MicroCode from 2101 along with the newest DSDT (there were some minor differences).

If someone wants to test it with a 980x and see if it's stopped the throttling it might help people out.

I take no responsbility if it bricks your board but I don't think it will. Please ensure you have a method of restore before you try it though.

http://www.mediafire.com/?s5plob5j31b4wg5

http://hotfile.com/dl/58179720/ff644...d-kup.zip.html

[boldenc]

Does the P6X58D-E also throttle under load like the P6T series?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...1&Tpk=P6X58D-E

[infected_]

OK, I've been playing around with 0006 and I've added the CPU MicroCode from 2101 along with the newest DSDT (there were some minor differences).

If someone wants to test it with a 980x and see if it's stopped the throttling it might help people out.

I take no responsbility if it bricks your board but I don't think it will. Please ensure you have a method of restore before you try it though.

http://www.mediafire.com/?s5plob5j31b4wg5

http://hotfile.com/dl/58179720/ff644...d-kup.zip.html

someone give me a 980X and i will try the bios

[vodka3dg]

guys, since i discovered that i don't seem to understand this Turbo matter, i wanted to ask you if it is a normal behavior of my xeon to throttle at 4.4GHz (21x210) with 1.4v, more precisely: multiplier drops gradually back to 20 (on prime small fft's)....

i've also noticed that on the cpu settings of my bios the turbo settings are missing...

is there a way to circumvent this?

as i type i'm also trying to get bclk higher than 214 stable with no luck yet

tried with last stable volts... and 205x21 (im actually not throttling at the 214x20, and used exact same stable settings for 205x21):


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[unclewebb]

It's normal for the Asus P6T series of motherboards to turbo throttle when you try to push them hard like you are doing. Most other X58 boards decided to ignore this Intel CPU feature. As CPU power consumption, current consumption or temperature goes over a pre-defined limit, the Asus P6T boards are designed so that the CPU will rapidly start to cycle turbo boost on and off hundreds of times a second to keep from going over one or more of these limits. The 20.57 average multiplier that ThrottleStop is showing you indicates that turbo boost is working approximately 57% of the time when it would be nice if it was working 100% of the time.

I think users have flashed your board with the special 0006 bios to get rid of this throttling problem. Any generally available bios from the Asus website will have this same throttling problem. Asus created the special 0006 bios for enthusiasts that wanted to get the most out of their CPU with less chance of throttling.

Can you right click on ThrottleStop and bring up the TDP/TDC option? I'm curious to see what numbers it shows for your CPU. Hopefully someone with the 0006 bios can also post the same information. On the Extreme CPUs, you should be able to adjust the turbo TDP/TDC values to get rid of the turbo throttling but I don't think any of the non-Extreme CPUs support that feature. I'm not sure about the Xeon processors and this feature. The TDP/TDC adjusters will be locked and not adjustable if the CPU doesn't support this option.

ThrottleStop 2.76
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/...rottleStop.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/?h8ix3b3b2zd7do7

[unclewebb]

double post, never mind

[vodka3dg]

thanks unclewebb for the detailed explanation... really, it helped a lot!

for my xeon w3520 D0: tdp is 130W and tdc is 110A (btw, the values where locked as you stated).

i am reluctant to try the 0006 bios cause of the possible difference that may exist between the P6T Deluxe v1/v2 and P6TD Deluxe... I'm also not very confident on this bios's xeon support.

supposedly the P6TD Dlx should actually be a P6T Dlx v2 with added cooper for better overclocking... i also heard from a forum member, that the vrm structure is actually the same as what u can find in v2 and thus making the crossflash a viable option, but i'm still not very convinced. can anybody acknowledge this? if it is true that they are "almost" the same, then i might just give it a go

P6T Deluxe
P6T Deluxe v2 = Marvell SAS Removed
P6TD Deluxe = Same as v2 but with more copper in its PCB. Asus calls this Xtreme Design.
[take from here]

[unclewebb]

I know earlier in this thread angelreaper cross flashed his P6T Deluxe v2 with the P6TD Deluxe bios 0106 and then he also cross flashed that same board with 0006.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1187

That doesn't 100% prove that you can go backwards and use 0006 on a P6TD Deluxe but it seems like these are interchangeable if you cross flash.

A Senior Moderator on OverClock.net owns a P6TD Deluxe and claims 0006 can be cross flashed to his board but his sig shows he is presently using bios 0501.
You might want to try and contact him for more info.

http://www.overclock.net/7653937-post7.html

The 130W/110A is the standard Intel spec. I'm not sure if bios 0006 modifies these numbers or has some other trick so these numbers are ignored and turbo boost continues without throttling.

[vodka3dg]

thanks! will try contacting him and then proceed with the crossflash... after that i'll report back with some results.

i knew i should have bought a gigabyte board to start with.. must be the eyecandy asus puts into their design's :p

anyway, at least this board's bios isn't soldered, so if anything should go terribly wrong i would be able to get it re-flashed.

thanks again for all the info

[vodka3dg]

well... i can finally say, after tons of cold sweat, that it IS POSSIBLE to crossflash P6TD Deluxe to P6T Deluxe 0006 modded bios.



didn't test anything yet, and as you can see, i didn't even set the dram timings yet but, everything looks as if it is working properly.

kudos to Unclewebb and Robilar (overclock.net) for all the help, this wouldn't have been possible without any of them

[vodka3dg]

ok, i've been able to test some and the conclusion is that BIOS 0006 was 100% SUCCESSFUL in disabling THROTTLING in ASUS P6TD Deluxe (rev 1.00 (?) -> the one without FLOPPY connector (this is NOT the 1.02G), as i didn't test with it).

proof:

[mstp2009]

Any BIOS out there that stops throttling for 32nm 6-core Xeons?

I love the P6T, but I'm really tired of it limiting my L5640 to a 17X multi instead of the 19X Turbo multi.

[kup]

Not yet but you can try my mod bios posted a bit higher up ^^^ ?

[mstp2009]

Not yet but you can try my mod bios posted a bit higher up ^^^ ?

Have you tried it with any P6T to verify it will at least flash w/o bricking a board?

[kup]

I have not. It passed all checksum tests and recompiled fine so I don't see why it would cause any problems but I can't take responsibility if it bricks your board. I do believe you can recover though?

[mstp2009]

Might give it a try. I got so sick of the P6T throttle issues that I got an eVGA X58 SLI and really am not too tempted to go back.

[kup]

Same here, different reasons but same here. P6X58D to Classified. I'll never go back now.

Back on topic, if it works, let us know in here so other people can benefit or I can remove the link.

[ieatrawbacos]

Just cross-flashed my P6TD Deluxe with the P6X58D Premium 0813 BIOS.

Some issues I've run into:

- USB 1&2 default to a USB 3.0 controller that does not exist on the P6T line, making the devices connected to them non-funtional, and the system unstable until the devices are moved. I've disabled the USB 3 controller, but haven't checked to see if ports 1&2 work yet.

- The Marvell drive controller that the rear eSATA and PATA ports are connected to is apparently at a different bus location than the Marvell controller on an actual P6X58D, meaning that disabling it in BIOS does nothing (it's always on).

- Like the PATA controller, the ASUS ExpressGate isn't attached where it is on a real P6X58D, meaning that ExpressGate doesn't work. However, the internal USB port it's connected to does work, and it defaults to the first removable boot device; you must switch/disable this device in order to boot.
On the plus side, the ExpressGate SSD is no longer hidden from the system (shows up as a USB flash drive), so you can wipe it and put whatever you want on it.

http://www.overclock.net/gallery/dat...xpressGate.png

[vodka3dg]

Just cross-flashed my P6TD Deluxe with the P6X58D Premium 0813 BIOS.

Some issues I've run into:

- USB 1&2 default to a USB 3.0 controller that does not exist on the P6T line, making the devices connected to them non-funtional, and the system unstable until the devices are moved. I've disabled the USB 3 controller, but haven't checked to see if ports 1&2 work yet.

- The Marvell drive controller that the rear eSATA and PATA ports are connected to is apparently at a different bus location than the Marvell controller on an actual P6X58D, meaning that disabling it in BIOS does nothing (it's always on).

- Like the PATA controller, the ASUS ExpressGate isn't attached where it is on a real P6X58D, meaning that ExpressGate doesn't work. However, the internal USB port it's connected to does work, and it defaults to the first removable boot device; you must switch/disable this device in order to boot.
On the plus side, the ExpressGate SSD is no longer hidden from the system (shows up as a USB flash drive), so you can wipe it and put whatever you want on it.

http://www.overclock.net/gallery/dat...xpressGate.png

cool, so you could, in theory, actually put any linux distro in it to boot from nice find!

how much memory does the SSD actually have? does it appear in windows too?

[Robilar]

As per Vodka's testing above, I also test flashed the P6TD Deluxe over to the 0006 bios.

Works without any side effects or issues here as well.