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    Oh man; pair that with SSD based SANs for boot volumes and you have full-on ESX IT guy w00d. Think of the potential for performance and power savings @ the same time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Too bad it's server only. Dual socket solutions are just too pricy for ordinary consumers like users of XS.
    These gotta compete really well on the server market, though. Intel doesn't have similar offers yet.
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    Sounds good, I want to see benchmarks and will this be the world's fastest CPU? 12 cores with 6MB of L2 and 12MB of L3 cache does sound wicked.
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    Sounds like a killer chip for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono Detector View Post
    Sounds good, I want to see benchmarks and will this be the world's fastest CPU? 12 cores with 6MB of L2 and 12MB of L3 cache does sound wicked.
    The fastest x86 cpu at tasks it is intended for? Probable.

    The fastest x86 at running cs:s*? Probably not.

    *substitute cs:s for whatever the current ultra-nerd shut eat Dorito eating computer game tops the retail market.

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    If you look over here:
    http://boincstats.com/stats/host_sta...ve=&st=0&or=16

    12 cores is a "minimum requirement"

    What about the prices on the new CPUs?
    Also the opteron pricing has not been updated since November 4th:

    http://www.amd.com/us/products/prici...r-opteron.aspx

    The 1381 and 2427 prices need to come down a bit: $150 and $300 would be
    a very good start


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    Quote Originally Posted by SocketMan View Post
    If you look over here:
    http://boincstats.com/stats/host_sta...ve=&st=0&or=16

    12 cores is a "minimum requirement"

    What about the prices on the new CPUs?
    Also the opteron pricing has not been updated since November 4th:

    http://www.amd.com/us/products/prici...r-opteron.aspx

    The 1381 and 2427 prices need to come down a bit: $150 and $300 would be
    a very good start
    Price list generally only changes when new products are introduced. Server pricing is generally fairly static.

    Oh, and the pricing on 12 cores will be great. Don't think that because it is 2x the cores and massively faster that the price jumps up at the same rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    Looks around house..

    I think its like a mandatory thing isn't it to be called "proper" member of a DC Team here on Xs :p

    I remember when we where running D2OL and R@H here the Dual Xeon 1.6Ghz LV ones, clocked and modded to.... 2.8Ghz where the thing to have, and everyone had'm


    So no one say Dual Socket boards are not for consumers... I'm NEVER going back to a single core.

    Dual CPU's for the win

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    All I need to know is:

    - Will this improve my short-hand 12 tablin' experience

    - When will it hit retail?
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    1. I have no idea what that is

    2. It will be available before the end of the quarter.
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    Intel 2x12 (2x Gulftown) lose in wprime :-)
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    Hmmmmm, interesting.

    Now, what would happen if it were faster, less expensive and drew less power? Nah, that could never happen, that would be impossible, right?
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    All I want to know is this:
    How does it fold?


    I get 31000 PPD at 3.3 GHz out of Gulftown. Can this match, or beat it?

    (and yes, ALL I do is fold).

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    I have no idea. Since our products are targeted at enterprise workloads we aren't testing for folding performance, sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalbard View Post
    Too bad it's server only. Dual socket solutions are just too pricy for ordinary consumers like users of XS.
    These gotta compete really well on the server market, though. Intel doesn't have similar offers yet.
    Agreed. Nonetheless impressive. So far for gamers the promise of multi core remains largely unfulfilled.

    Looking forward to the day when AMD offers comparable performance to Intel again for home users.
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    Thank you for your reply JF, when I meant 12 tablin' I was of course referring to poker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    Looks around house..

    We all know your the exception to the rule you punk
    Man, if I am ever in NH, I will find your home, knock on your door, and have my camera with crazy lenses to shoot some photos

    To JF-AMD: Is there a possibility of a 3ghz chip? As an architect, who does a lot of renderings, a 3ghz, 12-core system would be the sweet spot. I could pump them out like crazy...then again, 2.3ghz, 12-core still would pump out crazy fast too, especially when there would be 12 other computers like this and we could do a network render. mmmm 144 pure cores rendering at 2.3 ghz. yummy!!!!

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    I have a question regarding the G34 platform, since now we're seeing quad channel memory, can we expect the same quad channel for all Bulldozer incarnations (8 & 16 cores)?

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    24 cores win over 12 cores - what a surprise
    Still, when we see power numbers, it might be impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitriman View Post
    I have a question regarding the G34 platform, since now we're seeing quad channel memory, can we expect the same quad channel for all Bulldozer incarnations (8 & 16 cores)?

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    Yes, same quad channel. Probably higher clock speeds on the memory by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfaunits View Post
    24 cores win over 12 cores - what a surprise
    Still, when we see power numbers, it might be impressive.
    I was with our power lab guys on Friday and they said "same power, idles lower."

    That was a platform statement though because you have different chipset, different memory and some platform level things. The question I had was if you pull a bunch of old dual core systems and put in new 12-core systems, would you need to re-provision the power to the rack. Definitley not, you should see the same power and thermals as our Istanbul products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clo007 View Post
    We all know your the exception to the rule you punk
    Man, if I am ever in NH, I will find your home, knock on your door, and have my camera with crazy lenses to shoot some photos

    To JF-AMD: Is there a possibility of a 3ghz chip? As an architect, who does a lot of renderings, a 3ghz, 12-core system would be the sweet spot. I could pump them out like crazy...then again, 2.3ghz, 12-core still would pump out crazy fast too, especially when there would be 12 other computers like this and we could do a network render. mmmm 144 pure cores rendering at 2.3 ghz. yummy!!!!

    OK price on chip?
    can't comment on clock speeds or pricing until launch. If you want clocks, don't forget that there is also an 8-core model that has higher clock speeds and by virtue of the fact that there are fewer cores, you will have a higher core to cache ratio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitriman View Post
    Thank you for your reply JF, when I meant 12 tablin' I was of course referring to poker
    I'm a pai gow and 3-card poker guy myself. They only let you play 1 hand at a time in vegas
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    Quote Originally Posted by JF-AMD View Post
    I'm a pai gow and 3-card poker guy myself. They only let you play 1 hand at a time in vegas
    Hehe indeed.. I'm one of them new gen. online punks with too much Red Bull in their systems..
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    Let me reply publicly to the private message that I received:

    Jeff, be honest with yourself. You wouldn't know a high performance processor from a Pentium 4.

    All this talk of "features" and "value" reeks of an apologist.
    Just because we talk about features and values does not mean that we don't have great performance. We might even have top performance. It's just that server customers don't flock to top raw performance. 5% at most buy top bin, the bulk of the sales happen around N-3 or N-4 in most cases. Believe it or not, server customers do want value and features.

    Oh, and my name is not Jeff.
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