Preliminary tests for now, the article will be very complex, anyway, i re-tested a few times because I couldn't t believe that NH-D14 would do such a great job compared to TRUE and Megahalems
Last edited by poparamiro; 11-12-2009 at 03:41 PM.
Well, is is surprising if you ask me. First of all I cannot explain that difference, which, from my point of view is absolutely huge. Second, this kind of design was very poorly implemented untill now, and I didn't expect too much of it at high rpm. It seems that the 6 heatpipes and the Noctua touch really added something to this beast. Anyway, this is just a sneak peak, we will know the exact situation after all tests are done and re-done.
Bulldozer can't show up fast enough either. Bulldozer better live up to THIS: Image
It will either make history or make AMD history if it doesn't. Intel's thread count is getting higher than Fugger's bed sheets!
Well, is is surprising if you ask me. First of all I cannot explain that difference, which, from my point of view is absolutely huge. Second, this kind of design was very poorly implemented untill now, and I didn't expect too much of it at high rpm. It seems that the 6 heatpipes and the Noctua touch really added something to this beast. Anyway, this is just a sneak peak, we will know the exact situation after all tests are done and re-done.
Looks like a new King is on the way!
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There is a big different between mounting position for this and the rest. You have to mount those others (at least Megahalems and TRUE) blowing toward the roof of the case to get the heat-piped to stay horizontal.
But if you mount this one the usual way (blowing toward the back of the case) then the heat-pipes will stay horizontal, and the liquid should flow better science it doesn't need to overcome the gravity.
The Specifications says:
Weight 900g (without fan), 1070g (with one fan), or 1240g with both fans installed. This is more than Megahalems (790g without fan), but is still far less than TRUE Coper (1.9 KG without fan). It is getting really close to the limit for many MB's in a upraised case.
I have the noctua ordered and a lapped true cu to test against. Was hoping to have it before this weekend, but they’ve changed the delivery date so will be another week it seems..
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There is a big different between mounting position for this and the rest. You have to mount those others (at least Megahalems and TRUE) blowing toward the roof of the case to get the heat-piped to stay horizontal.
But if you mount this one the usual way (blowing toward the back of the case) then the heat-pipes will stay horizontal, and the liquid should flow better science it doesn't need to overcome the gravity.
Huh? How big is that difference then?
I very much doubt that using the TRUE upright (maximum gravity) would give far worse temp. In fact, gas rises, and the liquid only needs to run down.
There is a big different between mounting position for this and the rest. You have to mount those others (at least Megahalems and TRUE) blowing toward the roof of the case to get the heat-piped to stay horizontal.
But if you mount this one the usual way (blowing toward the back of the case) then the heat-pipes will stay horizontal, and the liquid should flow better science it doesn't need to overcome the gravity.
Bulldozer can't show up fast enough either. Bulldozer better live up to THIS: Image
It will either make history or make AMD history if it doesn't. Intel's thread count is getting higher than Fugger's bed sheets!
Just posted our review. Only tested with Noctua fans, push pull on the Megahalems and TRUE, but I'll test with some more powerful fans when I get time. The other thing was that our i7 860 CPU sensor is a bit screwy at stock idle temps up to around 24C, it shows 18C in a 19C room, but once past the 24C mark it's fine.
oh the endless debate on the best air cooler will rage on forever it seems. is this a viable solution for everyone, considering its size? of course not. Is the copper true realistic for everyone considering its size? of course not.
but no one is asking which is realistic for every user out there under the sun. YMMV.
the question is which is BEST.
I believe poparamiro's numbers, he is a established HS tester and has great methodology. and his numbers say this is the best out there. He did a writeup recently testing a VAST number of heatsinks. others testers are already agreeing with it as well.
maybe there needs to be size classes for the heatsinks? like heavy weights and lightweights? like boxing so people dont always have that "yeah, BUT...." to whine about.
oh the endless debate on the best air cooler will rage on forever it seems. is this a viable solution for everyone, considering its size? of course not. Is the copper true realistic for everyone considering its size? of course not.
but no one is asking which is realistic for every user out there under the sun. YMMV.
the question is which is BEST.
I believe poparamiro's numbers, he is a established HS tester and has great methodology. and his numbers say this is the best out there. He did a writeup recently testing a VAST number of heatsinks. others testers are already agreeing with it as well.
maybe there needs to be size classes for the heatsinks? like heavy weights and lightweights? like boxing so people dont always have that "yeah, BUT...." to whine about.
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oh the endless debate on the best air cooler will rage on forever it seems. is this a viable solution for everyone, considering its size? of course not. Is the copper true realistic for everyone considering its size? of course not.
but no one is asking which is realistic for every user out there under the sun. YMMV.
the question is which is BEST.
I believe poparamiro's numbers, he is a established HS tester and has great methodology. and his numbers say this is the best out there. He did a writeup recently testing a VAST number of heatsinks. others testers are already agreeing with it as well.
maybe there needs to be size classes for the heatsinks? like heavy weights and lightweights? like boxing so people dont always have that "yeah, BUT...." to whine about.
Coz even then, people will argue against Noctua with the "colours look like a turd" argument
At least Notcua will always win the "best burgundy and salmon coloured cooler" trophy. Whatever thats worth.
That was sarcasm and yes weight is important, but its either OK or its not, it's not a relative thing. You just start with the best performers list and drop them off if theyre too heavy for your tastes
Edit: Actually its not just the weight, its also how close to the motherboard that weight is. Because its the flexure in the mobo that will damage it. So really maybe we should have bending moment rather than weight
Last edited by gumballguy; 11-17-2009 at 01:58 AM.
So really maybe we should have bending moment rather than weight
+1 the other day i came across a pic of a copper true in a vertical setup, i almost crapped my pants. that dude is ballsy and has very little regard for his motherboard, mounting a copper true vertically!