Biostar T Power I45 BIOS thread

[firebane]

USB key works fine for me.

--Matt

how are you making it work?

[Ace-a-Rue]

Thats exactly what Im doing. I really cant stand this board. I cant stand Biostar even more. I emailed their US costumer service. They gave me a one sentence responce basicly saying "email our Tiawan department". I did that a few days ago and still no responce. I overpayed for a budget board with no software support. There has not been a new bios releace in 3 months, not so much as a beta. There is NO help coming from Biostar. Ket is your only chance. He is doing what we PAYED Biostar to do. Thanks for listening to my rant.

i could not resist any longer on weighing in on the biostar board...i made this thread about the Biostar Tpower I45 board!

i thought it pointed towards the GOOD points of the board...NO board really comes out as a "PERFECT" board!..i had good results and i showed the bios settings to get there...AND...not every memory kit is going to work the way it did on a previous board...all you new users need to understand that as a fact of life!

as for modded bioses or beta's, one has to approach them with a very cautious, skeptic eye...they are what they are; full of pitfalls, failures and generally, zero results in performance!

i am disappointed to see Ket releasing modded bioses or beta's without testing them first or not having another user test them for him before posting them up.

for all the new users, let this be your warning/lesson to approach modded bioses with a skeptical eye!...even officially released bioses can go wrong...case in point: gigabyte's X48T-DQ6 (DDR3) board...gigabyte released a bad official bios and it killed relentless amount of boards...gigabyte did the right thing and replaced the boards..i doubt Ket can do that!

this board is a good budget board but it will never be a perfect fit for everyone!

Peace!

[mattkosem]

how are you making it work?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/...&postcount=164

--Matt

[philbrown23]

the thing is, he warns of them not being tested and said to download and flash at your own risk therefore not guranteeing anything and saying they are not tested, there are only 2-4 people in this thread who can not seem to get that through their heads.

[Ket]

Exactly. I think anyone else who comes in here and starts whining should just be shown the front door to the P5Q series BIOS thread and let them read through the 40+ pages where pretty much everybody has had great success with the modded BIOS versions. The small percentage of people who did have issues in that thread were simply due to the flash going wrong, which sometimes happens with official BIOSes so I can hardly be blamed for that, and the one set of BIOS files that did have issues, were promptly removed.

[Ace-a-Rue]

the thing is, he warns of them not being tested and said to download and flash at your own risk therefore not guranteeing anything and saying they are not tested, there are only 2-4 people in this thread who can not seem to get that through their heads.

your expression of what is right or fair does not relieve Ket of the responsibility, when he mods a bios, that he should thoroughly test it before posting up for general use!

i hold him culpable as you would hold a motherboard company culpable for releasing a "bad" bios that kills boards!

[philbrown23]

wow, just wow. i just cant believe some people.

[firebane]

your expression of what is right or fair does not relieve Ket of the responsibility, when he mods a bios, that he should thoroughly test it before posting up for general use!

i hold him culpable as you would hold a motherboard company culpable for releasing a "bad" bios that kills boards!

I absolutely agree. I mean isn't this the reason why the board was donated in the first place?

[BababooeyHTJ]

Look, I dont know how to repair a bios after a bad flash (I really need to learn how). Therefore I wouldn't flash to any bios offical, beta, or modded without hearing some feedback from other users without being prepared for any concequences. The link Ket posted clearly said beta.

[firebane]

Look, I dont know how to repair a bios after a bad flash (I really need to learn how). Therefore I wouldn't flash to any bios offical, beta, or modded without hearing some feedback from other users without being prepared for any concequences. The link Ket posted clearly said beta.

While you all want to point blame to the end user not listening to the "beta" and "not tested" by what Ket... I already said I don't hold him responsible for what has happened to my board at all.

But on the flipside the reason for him GETTING a board was so that he could modify and test these bioses to be released. But at this point all he is doing is modifying them and letting US test them for him which to me is ass backwards.

[BababooeyHTJ]

While you all want to point blame to the end user not listening to the "beta" and "not tested" by what Ket... I already said I don't hold him responsible for what has happened to my board at all.

But on the flipside the reason for him GETTING a board was so that he could modify and test these bioses to be released. But at this point all he is doing is modifying them and letting US test them for him which to me is ass backwards.

No, thats true he should have at least flashed it before uploading the bios, but we all make mistakes. He needs multiple people to test the bios. I don't think that he has the recources of Biostar, I know they made some money with this board. Ive had bad results with the same bios for a P5Q that other peole with an e8400 had good luck with. I hope you dont have any problems in fixing the board. Good luck

[MiniMe1978]

ket, is it possible for you to make some changes to the vcore settings?

the steps for cpu vcore around +- 0 are a little big normally ist -0,050v to +0,025v, but nothing between this settings maybe you can make steps like :

+ 0,010v
+- 0,000v
- 0,010v
- 0,025v

[Ket]

Its incredible how people seem to think I have unlimited resources and testing facilities regardless of me saying I do NOT have endless amounts of BIOS modding tools at my disposal. I have also said the modding is done during my spare time, I am not paid, and if I was, no doubt I would be working for a manufacturer and be able to use all of their tools and testing equipment, but again, I don't.

I also find it completely infathomable how people hold me responsible for "dead" boards. Warnings have clearly been given, go to any manufacturer and they advise against BIOS updates unless absolutely necessary (something I also do - stop being so knuckle-headed and go read the P5Q mBIOS thread), manufacturers are also known to release bad BIOSes, just go look at Gigabyte and Asus, not to mention theres always the risk of the flash simply going wrong through no fault of anyones, but I suppose you would blame the manufacturer for a bad BIOS flash as well even though theres nothing wrong with the BIOS itself With an AMI BIOS you can easily recover from a bad flash, as I detailed earlier in this thread just put a TPower BIOS on a floppy and rename it AMIBOOT.ROM, then let it be to do its thing.

At this rate I just won't bother donating anymore time to BIOS modding on this board at all. All of you who seem to think its so easy to do, go try it for yourselves.

[MiniMe1978]

ok, means no thx

[DJSUB]

even a good working bios can make your board dead if somethings interrupt your system.
it happens to me before even in DOS mode or windows. so dont blame ket.
he's not paid to modified bios, he just want to help us.
if you dont want to take that risk dont go in this thread and dont download his modded bios.

keep up the good work ket!

[WeldZilla]

Listen up ket .... All we are saying is TEST waht you makw!!! Quit using suckers for guinea pigs... People gave you the damn board which you are using a factory bios in...

So yes if you are NOT going to test your work then quit posting it!!! you should be kicked from here to get you stopped...


WZ

[napox9]

Leave Britney Spears alone ! and Ket

[DoomSayer]

This thread is getting dumber by the moment.
If youre stupid enough to flash a bios in your mobo thats not tested how the hell do you get off blaming the guy that made it.

[Ace-a-Rue]

i guess for you a few others who take on that responsibility of flashing with a untested modded bios must have big b*lls.

what about the person who flashes with an official bios that is corrupted from the get-go by the motherboard maker?...that actually happened to gigabyte with their X48T (ddr3)..they released the 3rd or 4th bios version which killed MANY boards...gigabyte stepped up to the plate and replaced the boards..can Ket do that?

me and others put "TRUST" in the distributor of the bios that they have at least tested it before distributing it...so...Ket has an obligation to at least flash his board or pass it to one "selected" tester to confirm it flashes without killing the board!..it really is common sense to perform that quality control check!...i understand how Ket got caught up in the excitement of finessing/improving the biostar official 710 bios since he got the board for zero outlay!..he just skipped a step that is really mandated if you take on modding a bios and then distribute it to the users of the board.

i think Ket should just say he is sorry for not testing it beforehand and then, all of us can move on!

[Renegade5399]

OK, we get it. He should have tested it first.

Now from his side, he did release it with an "At your own risk" disclaimer.

I would personally like him to continue his work on this just out of pure curiosity. If he stumbles upon something that makes this killer board even better, it will benefit everyone.

I have been in this business for a lot of years. BIOS recovery, hot-flashing, and even reprogramming a chip is all old news to me.

Ket, once you get something, let me know. I'll help test it if you'd like. No risk or liability on you if it kills my BIOS. Unlike some, I understand the risks of flashing to a BIOS labeled BETA.

[Vazovskiiii]

hey everybody i have changed my P5q on Tpower so i have one cuestio i can get more than 421 FSB on Q6600

[kadozer]

delete wrong thread

[philbrown23]

Now dont be surprised if KET does not release ANY bios because of the flaming that has been going on, I would'nt! That would mean that everyone who put $ down is out of luck because of a few that didnt whining and crying about bullcrap, ket was just doing us a favor thats it, and most appreciated it, but the few that did not were straight up relentless, therefore KET himself has not even posted in here for over a week, Good job guys, you got what you wanted, now you can go flame somewhere else.

[Slovnaft]

hey everybody i have changed my P5q on Tpower so i have one cuestio i can get more than 421 FSB on Q6600

if it's a recent batch i wouldn't be too optimistic.
this board has produced some large patches of mixed results. i just sold off a QX6850 cos i barely got 400 fsb stable.
oh and it doesn't help that recent batch 65nm quads suck. they need a lot more voltage than their little brothers.

[Praz]

Now dont be surprised if KET does not release ANY bios because of the flaming that has been going on, I would'nt! That would mean that everyone who put $ down is out of luck because of a few that didnt whining and crying about bullcrap, ket was just doing us a favor thats it, and most appreciated it, but the few that did not were straight up relentless, therefore KET himself has not even posted in here for over a week, Good job guys, you got what you wanted, now you can go flame somewhere else.

I've stayed out of this up till now. As this has no effect on me either way I think I can be fairly objective about what took place.

Releasing a modded BIOS with the warning "use at your own risk" is something that should always be mentioned. However, that warning should be used to cover something that might crop up that wasn't found in testing. To release a BIOS that wasn't even flashed to a board shows a complete lack of responsibility. Saying it was classified as Beta is no excuse. This particular BIOS didn't come close to being Alpha.

To the users that flashed this BIOS. Regardless what I wrote above everyone of you need to bear the blame for bricking your board. As has already been written in this thread any type of BIOS flashing carries some risk. To flash the board with a modded BIOS that has not been proven to work is unthinkable if you have no means to recover from something going wrong. I'm not sure what you guys were thinking when doing this.

Everyone needs to own up to the part they played in this fiasco. If there is still interest in a modded BIOS post up something that shows some promise and is known to work at least as well as the Biostar provided ones. The first users who are going to test the BIOS need to have a backup plan in case of problems. If the BIOS work is not going to continue forward the board should be returned to the sender and everyone go their separate ways.

For the users looking for some kind of miracle I don't think that will happen. After using this board for a while now the few things I have found that could use some work will require Biostar to make those changes. And a couple of them are a hardware limitation that can't be corrected with BIOS rework.

I now return you to your regular scheduled programming.