TRUE Worth it?

[Dee]

Do you guys know the TRUE is supposed to rotate? It's intentional. I spoke with a Thermalright tech about this and that's what he said. I'd just like to clear up that it's not rotating because it's a bad fit, which most people seem to think.

Ultima-90 is no better, actually. Mine rotates like crazy, I only have to touch it and it moves. I don't like it, but the cooler seems to be doing a nice enough job. My only complaint is the heatsink base is scratched. That's how it was when I bought it.

[Levish]

I'm sorry about digging this up.

But is TR going to release a bracket for LGA 1366?
I plan on upgrading in december / january, and I'd really like to keep my TRUE

If the mobo comes with a backplate like this one
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=203436

the scissor topside bracket should work fine

[Spawne32]

Do you guys know the TRUE is supposed to rotate? It's intentional. I spoke with a Thermalright tech about this and that's what he said. I'd just like to clear up that it's not rotating because it's a bad fit, which most people seem to think.

Ultima-90 is no better, actually. Mine rotates like crazy, I only have to touch it and it moves. I don't like it, but the cooler seems to be doing a nice enough job. My only complaint is the heatsink base is scratched. That's how it was when I bought it.

nah its not intentional, all of the reviewers have been getting the same BS story about how the base and the mounting is intentional. Back when the TRUE was first released a few weeks aftewards they released a "fix" to the TRUE base which basically added a washer to increase the mounting pressure of the TRUE again the mobo, however later models failed to include this washer and the problem was never addressed. Heatsinks arent supposed to sag or tilt when the motherboard is in the upright position like the TRUE does, it has serious ramifications aganst cooling and contact area when it does. Which is why most people who have the TRUE now lap them and double the mounting pressure with a washer themselves. Usually a good rubber or vinyl washer from your hardware store will prevent the sag and twisting effect.

[Dee]

No sag here. Ultima-90 is light weight.

So... nobody believes Thermalright's tech's when they say it's not supposed to fit too tight because it might damage the CPU?

[Spawne32]

No sag here. Ultima-90 is light weight.

So... nobody believes Thermalright's tech's when they say it's not supposed to fit too tight because it might damage the CPU?

Nope, there are specific guidelines intel releases for maximum mounting pressure before you risk damage to the CPU, thermalrights mounting system for the TRUE isnt even close, especially on the parts that dont make contact with the CPU IHS completely which depending on which one you get on what day could be anything anywhere. Part of the reason why it sags or "tilts" after it goes vertical.

When i get some more money together im gona do some of those pressurex tests on a couple different sinks and send them off to get real pressure analysis done to get some exact figures.

[Dee]

Just out of interest, which cooler are you using yourself, Spawne?

[eternaljammer]

I agree, all I run are TRUE's they are the best hands down.

Fortunately none of mine sag.

[OldOne]

Is it ture that it takes over 7inches from cpu to side of case for clearance?

[Spawne32]

Just out of interest, which cooler are you using yourself, Spawne?

my E2140 system uses a ocz vindicator for uber silence, but i have like 30 different heatsinks

[illidan]

for every day of the month

[demonkevy666]

http://www.techpowerup.com/73777/The...his_Month.html

1900g

not the 3,000 they said....>_>

[ThugsRook]

the bottom of my TRU is so poor its need machining before i can bother to lap it, its that bad. the mounting hardware is junk too.

i doubt id ever buy another TR product again. good coolers but they fall very short in actual quality.

[cabbspapp]

The 3000 they were talking about was how many they were gonna make, and they are only making 2000.

[Reckless187]

It weighs 1.9kg!?!?!? Will we need planning permission from the local council to errect a support structure for this beast?

[Ozzfest05]

the TRUE isnt the same cooler after being lapped/mount modded nothing will beat it and that copper version looks damn sexy people dont realise weight isnt an issue it comes with a bolt through mobo design, I use a scythe infinity aswell plus I used 2 scythe ultra kaze fans which are incredibly weighted I bet my scyth config I had weighed double this new TRUE and it was using push pins lmao no troubles even moving case was fine

[ThugsRook]

piss poor TRU90 contact...



excellent XP120 contact...

[Spawne32]

actually thats not really a good way to check for contact thugsrook, if the heatsink is making perfect contact with the IHS it would actually push the thermal paste out of the way.

[ThugsRook]

actually thats not really a good way to check for contact thugsrook, if the heatsink is making perfect contact with the IHS it would actually push the thermal paste out of the way.

oh come on, its pretty obvious that about 2/3 of that TRU90 aint touching nothing.

[Reckless187]

Is the IHS the same size as the Heatsink base or slightly smaller?

[eternaljammer]

Is the IHS the same size as the Heatsink base or slightly smaller?

its alot smaller.

[Larsson]

Some have yet to familiarise themselves with the Thermalright HR-01 Plus

That said, it's not good out of the box, for it to shine it needs to be lapped. And even though I'm a sucker for Thermalright I have to say that their mounting system is poor. Straight out of the box performance wise? well, I'd have to go with the Xigmatek, less hassle and is (at least mine was) X mounted, which is far better then two single screws.

Anyone going for the Xigmatek should know that lapping it, could result in damaging the heatpipes, thus not recommended!

[Spawne32]

oh come on, its pretty obvious that about 2/3 of that TRU90 aint touching nothing.

i cant say that, i dont know what the IHS of the cpu looked like when it came off, and you didnt do any pressure mounting test to confirm that for sure did you?

[ThugsRook]

i cant say that, i dont know what the IHS of the cpu looked like when it came off, and you didnt do any pressure mounting test to confirm that for sure did you?

i spread the TIM by hand, so if it was touching it would have TIM on it.

the IHS of my e8200 is flat, many other coolers have perfectly good contact to this chip, the TRU90 is the only one that doesnt.

the TRU90 has a large buldge in the center, wobbles like a weeble, and can spin on a flat counter like a top.

mounted with the washer mod, spring bolts were very tight, i could not twist the cooler by hand.

and i checked it twice to be sure.

[cabbspapp]

I would lap it if I were you. It's not that hard either.

[Spawne32]

i spread the TIM by hand, so if it was touching it would have TIM on it.

the IHS of my e8200 is flat, many other coolers have perfectly good contact to this chip, the TRU90 is the only one that doesnt.

the TRU90 has a large buldge in the center, wobbles like a weeble, and can spin on a flat counter like a top.

mounted with the washer mod, spring bolts were very tight, i could not twist the cooler by hand.

and i checked it twice to be sure.

lol regardless of what you think is flat with your naked eye, the IHS on all intel CPU's arent flat, they are designed with a concave center so that the retail heatsink makes specific contact with that area. Part of the reason the retail heatsinks are designed the way they are.

Now i know TR bases on all their heatsinks generally have poor maching but im just saying you can make a direct judgement of contact by thermal paste alone. I learned that the hard way.