Kuma's NEVER going to OEM- at least not competitively, or EE/BE only. It's a channel product targeted at upgrades or new overclocking systems.
Regor, the new 45nm native dual design coming out in 09, will be replacing Brisbane.
And really, you think we so desperately need how high your Wolfdale can clock, seeing you didn't even read the thread?
How much is architecture? How much is process?
I think a lot of people forgot that high-k is actually quite amazing in terms of process. AMD's not going to get it till 32nm, but I don't think it's at any aspect fair for those guys to get slugged that hard because they're less radical on processes.
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