ATI Aiming For R300 Deja-Vu: Officially Launches 4800 Campaign

[Jimmer411]

hum, the graph looks ok to me, provided that the numbers are right. the length of the graph is min+avg+max fps.

3870x2: 3,45 + 13,98 + 24,26 = 41,69
3870: 7,61 + 15,83 + 22,99 = 46,34

so 3870>3870x2 according to these numbers, exactly what the graphs show.

I think pointing out the difference in size between the 13 and 15fps graphs to the difference in size of the 22 and 24fps graphs shows a better example of what was meant IMO. Not all graphs are to the same scale, they seem to be scaled against each other (min fps is a good example) rather than all on the same unit of scale

[perkam]

Ok who wants one

http://search.ebay.ca/search/search....atitle=hd+4850

EDIT: One gone, 3 left

Perkam

[Papu]

:o 163 euros delivered!!!!!!

[y2kbos]

Ok who wants one

http://search.ebay.ca/search/search....atitle=hd+4850

EDIT: One gone, 3 left

Perkam

Going to wait another week or two before parting with my hard earned, others should the same.

So far the HD4850 looks good, but a little over-rated

9600gt can be had for €90, 8800gt €110, HD3870 €110 and 8800gts €150

It doesnt look quite so appealing now, at €165

http://www2.hardwareversand.de/3/art...18814&agid=554

[AliG]

That cant be right can it? Or are they scamming people?

Probably is legit, samething happened with the r600 last year, the question is whether you'll actually recieve the card (this assumes the sender will ship the card), as I'm pretty sure ATI make sure to have it held up by UPS or whatever to prevent any one getting the card before the first reviews are done (by probably whatever sites favor ati)

Ok who wants one

http://search.ebay.ca/search/search....atitle=hd+4850

EDIT: One gone, 3 left

Perkam

I want to get ripped off and buy a product that won't be allowed to be shipped because of ATI

[bill_d]

if he's selling it for 210 US or ebay and probably jacking it over the price, what is it going to be the price? 179 to 199

[GAR]

its in walnut california, thats where all the pc warehouses are in so cal, its 30 miles from my house, maybe ill go pick some up cash hehe..........but i want the 4870!!!!

[Helmore]

its in walnut california, thats where all the pc warehouses are in so cal, its 30 miles from my house, maybe ill go pick some up cash hehe..........but i want the 4870!!!!

Patience is a virtue and I hope you got plenty of it (patience) as you will need it if you are waiting for a 4870.

[perkam]

Going to wait another week or two before parting with my hard earned, others should the same.

So far the HD4850 looks good, but a little over-rated

9600gt can be had for €90, 8800gt €110, HD3870 €110 and 8800gts €150

It doesnt look quite so appealing now, at €165

http://www2.hardwareversand.de/3/art...18814&agid=554

You can find good deals for hardware everywhere

http://www2.hardwareversand.de/3/art...19175&agid=717

But the 4850 should end up faster in a number of applications, so really you're paying for the next generation of cards, hence the premium.

Perkam

[003]

Patience is a virtue and I hope you got plenty of it (patience) as you will need it if you are waiting for a 4870.

Not even speaking of the 4870X2 ... and god forbid, two of them!

[biohead]

most shops have listed the 4850 but not the 4870. no equal launch date?

[Helmore]

most shops have listed the 4850 but not the 4870. no equal launch date?

That's correct, they will probably be announced at the same time but retail availability will not be at the same time for both of them. They are supposed to be launched at the 25th of June with availability of both, 4850 will be widely available in enough quantities, 4870 will probably be available in limited quantity as GDDR5 seems to be scarce. This is all rumours though, no one knows for sure (except AMD ofcourse and some people with some form of love/hate relation with AMD (read: NDA)).

[iTravis]

I type HD 4870 after clicking on Perkam link and found this:
http://search.ebay.ca/search/search....trypage=search
WTH is that guy thinking? Guess I ain't hardcore enough to buy it

[Nedjo]

What makes 4800 series different? Its all absed on R600 base designs. And 4800 series is nothing more than a glorified 3800 series that was nothing more than a slightly changed R600.

as usually you really don't have clue about what's inside RV770, but that doesn't stop you being smartas*

For all the people you're trying to FUD with AMD's "lying marketing" here is clear definition about what's "Streaming processor" and what's Shader Processor":



as can be seen five "Streaming Processors" constitute (with additional logic) one "Shader processor", and when AMD is talking about Streaming Processors he's thinking on go figure.... Straming Processors, just as do NVIDIA!

[Nedjo]

You can only count the r6xx SP to 64 when you are using 64-bit double-precision floating-points. Since there are no 64-bit ALUs, the r6xx have to emulate it and does so by using the whole 5 ALU cell. Then you get 1/5 of the performance and about 100GFLOPS. Thats why you have to seperate SP FLOPS and DP FLOPS.

R600 doesn't support Double Precision, and your math is wrong!

[Shintai]

as usually you really don't have clue about what's inside RV770, but that doesn't stop you being smartas*

For all the people you're trying to FUD with AMD's "lying marketing" here is clear definition about what's "Streaming processor" and what's Shader Processor":



as can be seen five "Streaming Processors" constitute (with additional logic) one "Shader processor", and when AMD is talking about Streaming Processors he's thinking on go figure.... Straming Processors, just as do NVIDIA!

Now Mr. Shill..can you tell us if all the 5 units are able to do the same functions? Let me help you..its no. Also if you was to draw nVidias. How would it look? And how would you count nVidias? 256 SP for a 8800GTS/GTX?



If your imaginary superpower GPU actually was as you said, then it wouldnt suck so much as it does against nVidia.