ATI Aiming For R300 Deja-Vu: Officially Launches 4800 Campaign

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Nvidia First 55nm Desktop Graphics; GeForce 9800 GT
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Nvid...0_GT/5714.html


it prety obvious
G92b can only increase core/shader clock. There are no arquitectural changes. Overclock one G92 and you get G92b in performance numbers.
Actualy by this, the clocks look similar to a standart 8800GT:
http://www.nordichardware.com/image3.php?id=5193


3dmark 2006 gives you that, but vantage in Xtreme setings gives X2800 (tested by a user in this forum). Xtreme setings are high resolution with AA and AF. 3dmark 2006 give 1280 res, no AA, no AF.
In 3dmark 2006 GTX280 gives 17K = far from reality. Vey far. GTX280 is much faster then that
Games:
http://diybbs.pconline.com.cn/topic.jsp?tid=8725790

As stated earlier we are working on speculation, but till now any speculation gives HD 4850 = 8800GT. Only 3dmark 2006, but the same 3dmark 2006 give you GTX280 scoring very low numbers, when everyone know thats far from reality.

If we move to 3dmark Vantage Xtreme it gives HD 4850 far from 8800GT and gives GTX280 far from any other cards. Pretty obvious that vantage Xtreme setings is being more acurate then 3dmark 2006 and GTX280 proves that.

At last you made a very very good point. I don't disagree with anything you said on this post. I specially agree with you about your Vantage interpretation, and is nice to know you agree with me about HD4850=8800GT @ 3dmark2006, at least for know.
(and thanks for the clarification about 9800GT, although we still don't know their final clocks, and although I really think they should have made architectural improvements with G92b in order to have a better product to fight the HD48xx and at the same time give a bit more performance @ low prices, kind of going with ATIs philosophy)

lol You're not a fanboy...yet

There are millions of Nvidia fans. I am an AMD/ATI fan, have been for a long time (or at least for as long as they have been the underdogs). You become a fanboy when you disregard the achievements of the other side completely, and begin to make statements over and over again, out of the context of the thread, and without proof.

And no it wasn't intended to you I'm sure an 8800GT does very well, and will give run the 4850 a run for its money, but the 4850 is no slouch and will be very worth the price, especially for all those benchers out there.

Perkam

Well, as long as ATI is the underdog and as long as I see statements defending them that are far from reality, (this 4ghz qx9650@2006 sure did that ) I'll keep trying to make things clear, so it might seem sometimes that I am nV biased, but I think I am not. I would really love to see a nice HD4850 performing nicely in games, but that doesn't make me stay away from reality and say it currently compares to 9800GTX @ 2006, which is clearly false, at least for now
Vantage seems to bring the fields a bit more interesting, so let's just see more results.

Show us 8800GT scoring X2800 in 3dmark Vantagem extreme setings

I would love to, but I don't have a 1900x1200 display, don't know if I'll be able to do that

regards