Solid State Drive (SSD) - Review!!!

[F.E.A.R.]

I wanted to take a report on the Hama SSDs deliver, I did get on 03.01.2008.

The polished aluminum housing is really very nicely processed. These drives are MTRON OEM-SSDs only for Hama (it´s a reseller), depending on the size of up to 300 € more than the Hama's cost.

http://www.mbu.de/news/SolidDisk.html





System is a ASUS P5N32-E SLI + E6600...







And here are Benches with the S-ATA-Raid-Controller Areca ARC-1210 (256MB ECC-Ram-Cache).





RAID 0-Array...





The write performance with FC test with onboard controller.

Left: Samsung HD501LJ - Right: Hama SSD...The weakness in writing SSD can be seen clearly here ...




The same again, but now with the controller and still ATTO-Bench...

One SSD without Cache...

The majority of controller performance can be seen immediately ...




One SSD with cache. The benefits are really enormous ...




RAID 0 + Cache...


Nearly a halving extractiontime... *ggg*




Without Cache...




With Cache...




RAID 0 with 3 SSDs...





RAID 0 with 4 SSDs... *ggg*





RAID 5 with 3 SSDs...





RAID 5 with 4 SDDs...






Even a few benches with IOmeter...

Mit Workstation-Pattern... *<-klick*

2x SSD @ RAID 0 with Write-Cache




2x SSD @ RAID 0 without Write-Cache




150GB Raptor




Samsung HD501LJ





Mit Fileserver-Pattern... *<-klick*


2x SSDs @ RAID 0 mit Write-Cache




2x SSD @ RAID 0 ohne Write-Cache




150GB Raptor




Samsung HD501LJ





Mit Database-Pattern... *<-klick*

2x SSDs @ RAID 0 with Write-Cache




2x SSDs @ RAID 0 without Write-Cache




150GB Raptor




Samsung HD501LJ




From here all the tests with only one SSD...

The Windows XP Start time:
The difference is really noticeable - of course, at work. One the other hand, is a Raptor Nothing!
This I simply beautiful packed XP on the Samsung Hama cloned, as a fresh OS little anfordernd.

Samsung = 69sek.
SSD = 46sek.

Difference of 50&#37;


Copy / move of large files:
I have a beautiful large selbstgenerierte file of exactly 5GB taken and copying at the click abgestoppt exactly.

Copy within a SDD 36MB/sek approx.
Copying the other SSD SSD 81MB/sek approx.

2.25 times faster ...


HL2 - Lost Coast:
This time I have the time from the double click until the appearance of the menus stopped. More specifically, until the ink on the background image appears. It was always only ONCE HL2 started and abgestoppt since the 2nd Load times already a lot of data in RAM or Videoram. There were each stopped 5 times (also 5-boot), a precise value funds.

Samsung HD501LJ = 27.6 sec.
Hama SSD = 19.5 sec.

Difference nearly 42%

The repeated time after loading end of HL2 showed little difference (basic stands above). Since it is just 0.1 sec. (If any). It is important but the first after loading Windows Start.


Crysis:
This I Crysis on c: \ XP installed (such as HL2). I assumed that the loading time also depends on the settings - so that high resolution + AA / AF / details more data in RAM or Videoram land than with moderate attitude. Therefore, I have the highest setting (1920x1200 + + 16xAA high). I then a batch file for the GPU bench, as the intros, and the menu is being circumvented.
Stopped Auf&#252;hren was from the batch file to the disappearance of the loading screen. Re with 5 passes (each after a restart).
The drives were (like HL2 also) first with Perfect Disk defragt the game installed and the same again defragt. So all very clean.

Samsung HD501LJ = 44.2 sec.
Hama SSD = 30.2 sec.

Difference approximately 46%


WinRar 3.70:
Here I simply the folder "dllcache" c: \ windows \ system32 \. It is about 450MB in size and includes 2460 files of a few hundred bytes of up to 13MB. Only small files would be naturally better for testing, but here is the Hama very strongly on the Samsung. The result would be even more dramatic with only small files.
Thus, the CPU is not the whole limited WinRar I have the option to "save".

Samsung = 28.5 sec.
Hama = 18.3 sec.

Approximately 56% difference! *OMG*


Windows boot time - vs. Hama. Seagate ST3160021A:
I have the OS on my work PC (Venice A64 3200 +, MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum) on the SSD cloned. In the PC handycrafts been 3 1 / 2 years with a 24/7-Betrieb Seagate ST3160021A (160GB - 2MB cache). Since the OS is already very crowded and some in the Quick Launch toolbar lands needs the chest about 3:25 minutes until HDD activity no longer be seen. What should I say? The result almost made me away ...

ST3160021A (160GB - 2MB cache) = 3:28 min
Hama = 1:28 minutes! *Aaargh*

Bright 2.36 times faster! *OMG*


Raid array:
So it looks like I can not Raid 0 on the ASUS create when you press F7 should immediately so a pop. It does not (freeze)
That would be very unfortunate if that is not suffering. Had me on Raid 0 pleased ...

The problem with raid on the ASUS is likely to be found. Either Drives are too small (some controllers to accept no small Drives) or the IDs of the drives are not allowed. So even with the 9650 series of 3ware. These controllers support SSD's NOT! Only the 9590 Series supports this, but merely coincidental or unintentionally (as you told me).
The controller of Areca but run well with SSDs.


http://www.nextlevelhardware.com/storage/battleship/

http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulle...d.php?t=400991

http://mtron.net/Upload_Data/Spec/ASiC/MSP-SATA7035.pdf

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_State_Drive

http://www.ssdisk.eu/benchmark_pc_extreme_raid.php

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...&postcount=336

http://www.hmk.de/datasheets/PM_HMK_SSD_0307.pdf

http://www.cis.nctu.edu.tw/~lpchang/...ac2007_ppt.pdf

[XS Janus]

This is good.
Relabled for lower prices.
If I understand correctly up to 300€, deppending on the size.
But my guess those arent the fastest ones, these have reads of 95MB/s

[darkone414]

Can anyone translate a rough summary of this post for me?

EDIT : Nevermind, SSD's are out of my price range and interest right now lol.

[F.E.A.R.]

This is good.
Relabled for lower prices.
If I understand correctly up to 300€, deppending on the size.
But my guess those arent the fastest ones, these have reads of 95MB/s

I pay for one 16GB-SSD 399€ (588,50 US-$). How much cost a MTRON-SSD 3,5" (16GB) in USA?
Yes, the datarate is only on paper 120MB/s. (because S-ATA 1-Interface)

edit: Oh, i see you are from Croatia

[XS Janus]

^Too bad about the interface they really dropped the ball on that one!

OT: Yes i am.
PS: Can't believe that your user name wasn't taken long before!

[F.E.A.R.]

*update*

[F.E.A.R.]

AMCC 3ware Escalade 9650SE-Series DONT support SSD&#180;s. I heard, the Drivers for the Controler dont except the SSD-IDs!!! The same problem with my P5N32-E SLI???
I ordered a "Areca Tekram ARC-1210"

[XS Janus]

Hopefully they will add the support in a new driver/firmware then...

[F.E.A.R.]

Hmm... And when? I need a controler now!

[XS Janus]

From what I understand you can't go wrong with Areca now days. So don't wait.
Shoot 3ware a message, maybe they will respond quckly.

[F.E.A.R.]

http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulle...&postcount=113

[F.E.A.R.]

Now with Areca ARC-1210

[XS Janus]

2 in Raid0, no?

[F.E.A.R.]

Yes, 2x 16GB @ AID 0

[F.E.A.R.]

Samsung HD501LJ...




2x SSD @ AID 0 am Areca...





So, und hier noch der h2bench...

Kapazit&#228;t: CHS=(3890/255/63), 62492850 Sektoren = 30514 MByte

Interface-Transferrate mit Blockgr&#246;&#223;e 128 Sektoren bei 0.0&#37; der Kapazit&#228;t:
Sequenzielle Leserate Medium (ungebremst): 214971 KByte/s
Sequenzielle Leserate Read-Ahead (Verz&#246;gerung: 0.33 ms): 557648 KByte/s
Wiederholtes sequenzielles Lesen ("Coretest"): 606744 KByte/s
Sequenzielle Schreibrate Medium (ungebremst): 188578 KByte/s
Sequenzielle Schreibrate Cache (Verz&#246;gerung: 0.37 ms): 312330 KByte/s
Wiederholtes sequenzielles Schreiben: 351682 KByte/s

Dauertransferrate (Blockgr&#246;&#223;e: 128 Sektoren):
Lesen: Mittel 215038.8, Min 212651.4, Max 216182.1 [KByte/s]
Schreiben: Mittel 158826.5, Min 150162.5, Max 349809.4 [KByte/s]

Zugriffszeit Lesen: Mittel 0.14, Min 0.03, Max 1.86 [ms]
Zugriffszeit Schreiben: Mittel 0.03, Min 0.03, Max 0.03 [ms]
Zugriffszeit Lesen (<504 MByte): Mittel 0.10, Min 0.08, Max 0.10 [ms]
Zugriffszeit Schreiben (<504 MByte): Mittel 0.03, Min 0.03, Max 0.04 [ms]

Anwendungsprofil `Swappen': 49471.5 KByte/s
Anwendungsprofil `Installieren': 122742.2 KByte/s
Anwendungsprofil `Word': 284210.8 KByte/s
Anwendungsprofil `Photoshop': 147773.5 KByte/s
Anwendungsprofil `Kopieren': 245447.6 KByte/s
Anwendungsprofil `F-Prot': 80983.9 KByte/s
Gesamtergebnis: Anwendungsindex = 128.0
!!! WARNUNG: Anwendungsprofile ungenau, da Kapazit&#228;t zu klein

Timeraufl&#246;sung: 0.000 &#181;s, 3399.660 MHz
Timerstatistik: 1800060072 Aufrufe, min 0.53 &#181;s, mittel 6809.43 &#181;s, max 1611608.85 &#181;s
Testbeginn: 12.01.08 00:34:14
Testversion: $Id: h2bench.c,v 3.12 2006/11/24 15:45:09 bo Exp $/Win32
Kommandozeile: h2benchw.exe -a -! -w c:\HamaMtronSSD 2

Und hier die grafische Darstellung...



h2benchw ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/ctsi/h2benchw.zip
Ghostscript 8.61 for x86 http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gho...6&big_mirror=1
Ghostscript 8.61 for x64 http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gho...0&big_mirror=1

[F.E.A.R.]

Update Post#1 (Final)

[F.E.A.R.]

Update...

"Birdman&#180;s" Bericht &#252;ber SSDs mit versch. Controllern... http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulle...d.php?t=400991

[XS Janus]

How come the 3ware is doing so bad?
I can mostly just buy 3ware here.
Do you have any such reviews with that 3ware controller using normal drives?

[F.E.A.R.]

I don&#180;t know. At the moment it&#180;s better to buy a Areca-Controller.

[XS Janus]

Great tests!
THANX!

[gillll]

the question is will ssd or flash to be exact replace traditional hd as space ?

eventually ?

and yes these babes also the 16gb will shake our world in the near future.
not only on pc where games and oses will fly but also on servers.

imagine sql on ssd ! hell bring it on !

[F.E.A.R.]

For normal users one SSD is enough
The boot-time with 2 SSDs in RAID 0 is nor faster than one SSD. And the applications do not pop-up faster than one SSD. (see here... http://www.nextlevelhardware.com/storage/battleship/ )
The absolute advantage with 2 SSDs in RAID 0 is copying small/big files and extracting big archives inside the array.

How much is a 16GB-MTRON (Mobi 3000) in USA?
I can buy it for 280€ (shipping included). That&#180;s actually US-$ 437,49. Good or bad price?

[Peakr]

For normal users one SSD is enough
The boot-time with 2 SSDs in RAID 0 is nor faster than one SSD. And the applications do not pop-up faster than one SSD. (see here... http://www.nextlevelhardware.com/storage/battleship/ )
The absolute advantage with 2 SSDs in RAID 0 is copying small/big files and extracting big archives inside the array.

How much is a 16GB-MTRON (Mobi 3000) in USA?
I can buy it for 280€ (shipping included). That´s actually US-$ 437,49. Good or bad price?

Too much for me. I can still dream though. Awesome performance! Thanks for the review.

[NeedMoMegaHurtZ]

How much is a 16GB-MTRON (Mobi 3000) in USA?
I can buy it for 280€ (shipping included). That´s actually US-$ 437,49. Good or bad price?

16GB Mobi is about $389 (not including shipping)

Thanks for the nice review

[F.E.A.R.]

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