what is the difference on the 3 Lian Li PC-V2000

[Hilfiger]

Hardly need any further drive bays I use 1 of these Scythe Karma Bay can be seen in this shot Karma bay on left side - no fan I find I get best cooling having no fan on the bay but i suspend a silverstone FM121 on the inside of the 51/4" drive bays using large plastic ties, this sucks air in through the karma bay. All 120mm fans are set as intake the only exhaust being the lian-li pci-e cooler.

nice, but the reason why i did buy the front fan is that i didn't want to screw my front look.. you know ..look means everything those days

i will take off the hdd bay and leave only the fan, and everything will look cool

[Supershanks]

i will take off the hdd bay and leave only the fan, and everything will look cool

Makes sense i had originally looked at the drive bay but they were out of stock when i got case, then i saw the scythe unit which visually is a pretty cool match, but gotta admit ain't "badged"

[mrt2]

tuniq will fit

i tested few positions the best one is to orientate the tuniq blowing same way as the intake back fan.


tuniq ]
<-------- ] intake back fan (remove the duct)
air blow ]

Explain that to me please? I thought because of the way the tuniq is, you can have the fan only blow 1 or 2 directions in this case...since it's inverted. Up toward the the top of the case or down toward the bottom... The fan on the back for some reason seems to be blowing out instead of taking in... How do you know which way the air flow is going on case fans? It's my understanding that whatever side the sticker in the middle of the fan is on...that's the direction the air flowing is going...no? How do I make sure?

[Nosfer@tu]

Explain that to me please? I thought because of the way the tuniq is, you can have the fan only blow 1 or 2 directions in this case...since it's inverted. Up toward the the top of the case or down toward the bottom... The fan on the back for some reason seems to be blowing out instead of taking in... How do you know which way the air flow is going on case fans? It's my understanding that whatever side the sticker in the middle of the fan is on...that's the direction the air flowing is going...no? How do I make sure?

Lick on your finger and stick it infront og the fan

[Supershanks]

Lick on your finger and stick it infront og the fan

Ouch

The direction of the fan is shown by the support struts to the centre, so in this pic

fans are blowing down onto cpu & memory. I find remembering it this way much easier on the fingers

luck

[Nosfer@tu]

dont stik it INTO the fan, just infront

[Hilfiger]

the face of fan is blowing to the back (the back is where the small cables are)

the back fan on lian li blows in, the side fan out the fron fan in

the best position tested by me for tuniq is to have it blowing same way with the back fan .. (blowing to front of case)

i cant have it that way any more because i installed a custom NB cooler and the tuniq dosnt fit that way so i installed the tuniq to blow to top of case(up) and the temps have increased 5C from the previous position


a way to find which way the fans are blowing is to get some pater and put it on fan, either is blowed away from fan or is sucked in to the fan

have fun :p

[mrt2]

Thanks guys... Hilfiger explain to me how to mount the Tuniq the way you were talking about? Because if my intake on the back is blowing toward my Tuniq, how do I mount the tuniq so it's fan is blowing the same way? From the way it looks you can only mout the Tuniq so it blows air up or down but not sideways... explain for me please?

[mrt2]

bump

[Movieman]

I just recived an email from them.

Apparently TNT isent a very god company here in Europe.
He states that an RMA will take mounths.

How lame is european service than???

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From: "4Launch - Verkoop" <verkoop@4launch.nl>
To: <punk_kirk@msn.com>
Subject: Order 071363
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:38:53 +0100


Dear P. M. Kirk,

You can fill in the RMA application form on your account at our webshop, so you can return the package back to us.
If you want we can make a Case with TNT, allthough this will take for months till it is settled.

The choice is up to you.


My regards,

Met vriendelijke groet,


Yuri van der Zalm
4Launch

www.4launch.nl

I will speak to the guy from netherland and have him help me fill out the return papers.

I don't know what the laws are in Holland but in your situation I would say to them in a quiet but firm voice that you paid for an intact undented case and that is what you want or your money back period.
If it takes them months to collect from the shipping company, that is their issue not yours. THEY chose the shipper not you and therefore the responsibility lies with them. I would give them the option of replacing the side panel( and that BS of it taking months is just that,BS: They could buy it retail in the US if they had no other choice.
If they refuse that option and refuse to RMA and Immediately refund your money, call the police both locally and in the city they operate out of and let them know that you will go to the mats with them.
NEVER raise your voice or swear. NEVER! Once you do that they now have the excuse they want to hang up on you and refuse to talk to "an abusive customer". This is like a chess match and has to be played out the same way. Step by step always thinking 12 moves ahead.
Good Luck to you!

[p0tter]

Just have your CC decline the charges, explain your situation.

[Hilfiger]

Thanks guys... Hilfiger explain to me how to mount the Tuniq the way you were talking about? Because if my intake on the back is blowing toward my Tuniq, how do I mount the tuniq so it's fan is blowing the same way? From the way it looks you can only mout the Tuniq so it blows air up or down but not sideways... explain for me please?

you can mount the tuniq to blow in 4 ways , up down left right

simply turn the tuniq the way you need and mount it, the plate on tuniq fits any way you like, is a square, so turning the tuniq to blow in the direction you need is not a problem


i don't have any pictures with the fan blowing same way as the back intake fan, but it should fit

by the way , what's your motherboard? maybe the tuniq cant be turned on your board .. just crossed my mind

[Nosfer@tu]

I don't know what the laws are in Holland but in your situation I would say to them in a quiet but firm voice that you paid for an intact undented case and that is what you want or your money back period.
If it takes them months to collect from the shipping company, that is their issue not yours. THEY chose the shipper not you and therefore the responsibility lies with them. I would give them the option of replacing the side panel( and that BS of it taking months is just that,BS: They could buy it retail in the US if they had no other choice.
If they refuse that option and refuse to RMA and Immediately refund your money, call the police both locally and in the city they operate out of and let them know that you will go to the mats with them.
NEVER raise your voice or swear. NEVER! Once you do that they now have the excuse they want to hang up on you and refuse to talk to "an abusive customer". This is like a chess match and has to be played out the same way. Step by step always thinking 12 moves ahead.
Good Luck to you!

I have tried this a few times here in denmark, the police thing would have been a great thing, But I can´t be bothered, they even have a telefone number where they charge you for calling, And of cource it dosent work internationaly So I cant even call them...

This will end up costing me the frigth from here to Holland, then I will recive a new one.
Thoug they should cover the cost of frigth from here to Holland...

Just have your CC decline the charges, explain your situation.

CC???

I already paid for the case, and it is a bank transfer, so when it is international you cant stop the money...

[NijN of Spades]

This is not a great situation you are in. I have orderd before from them in the past and had no big problems with them. But this is just bad. On the other hand the package has been damaged by the transporter so basicly the seller is not responsible (not that this helps your case)

Good luck in the RMA.

[Nosfer@tu]

Im told they have to report it to TNT before 5 days, They havent yet but I told 4launch that the package was damaged the 20 december 2006 23:43.

They replyed the day after offering me 10 Euro and when I denied that they did not reply before the 27 of December....

So maybe they are claiming that it will take mounths because it is imposible to do a RMA at TNT????