Allendale @ 460FSB +

[Big_Sam]

Ok, I give up. WTF is this??

Nice screen, FUGGER
But I will not have not enough imagination to assume what it is.

[cadaveca]

Temps?

[s7e9h3n]

Hmmm...interesting....While there's an obvious improvement in the architecture, I would have thought the difference between Core and Core 2 would have been much bigger......Yonah on air:

[farksy]

Stock vcore I can boot @ 333FSB

1.4v I can boot to 30% over 333FSB = 433FSB

NB @ 1.6v
Memory @ 2.2v



Ok, I give up. WTF is this??

Lol ! AMD hacked into Intel's chip !?!?

[Kjaks]

Hmmm...interesting....While there's an obvious improvement in the architecture, I would have thought the difference between Core and Core 2 would have been much bigger......Yonah on air:

Interesting, but how tweaked is that OS?

[s7e9h3n]

Interesting, but how tweaked is that OS?

It's not tweaked at all

[kiwi]

SP maybe not so huge but in 3D I'd say there is a HUGE difference. I am getting like 7-8K more 2k1 at the same speed vs yonah.

[death metal]

*lol* at the screenshot!

[s7e9h3n]

SP maybe not so huge but in 3D I'd say there is a HUGE difference. I am getting like 7-8K more 2k1 at the same speed vs yonah.

It's cuz your conroe is 4mb l2 cache

[RyderOCZ]

Ok, I give up. WTF is this??

That is to keep the Fanboys out of your thread, and your PC.
I think it monitors and says "AMD............no CPU for you"

[Vric]

guys the only way to compare the 2 would be to have both the 2.4ghz 2mb vs 2.4ghz 4mb. I havent seen the 2.4ghz 2mb es yet, unless he has a ES and is not locked on upping the multi.

You can't higher the multi, but you can lower it.

So a E6600 with 7x multi would make a good comparison with that chip.
Compare both at 1.86. Then we will see if the 4MB cache worth it.

[Johnny Bravo]

From Guru3D

Microsoft's Away Mode is also a requirement for AMD Live! compliant systems. Away Mode will allow a system to shutdown all components that are unused by a user when they are "away" from the machine. Some of the components listed are: displays, keyboards, mice, remote controls, and other non essentials. The machine continues to operate normally, with the power LED on the system will indicate an off state -- although safety issues may arise from a user thinking that the machine is off when in fact, it's still operating. According to Away Mode specifications, the machine will continue to operate normally so that tasks such as file downloading and transferring can still take place without requiring much power. Away Mode is only supported in Microsoft's Windows XP Media Center Edition with Rollup 2 update. Apparently, the Away Mode feature is part of the Live! specification and is not a feature available to Intel Viiv systems.

Nothing to fear then Fugger...apart from the fact it shouldn't even be there!

[Gautam]

Hmmm...interesting....While there's an obvious improvement in the architecture, I would have thought the difference between Core and Core 2 would have been much bigger......Yonah on air:

There *is* a very large difference- this is just 3158MHz:

[s7e9h3n]

There *is* a very large difference- this is just 3158MHz:

Ummmm....please read post #34

[althes]

keep up the good work fugger

[Gautam]

Ummmm....please read post #34

Quite a head scratcher...I still can't believe that this architecture relies so heavily on cache... core 2 is quite different from core, sort of sad to think that the cache by itself is where most of the oopmh seems to be coming from. :-/

[Stelios]

Away mode : http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...b/awaymode.doc

[kiwi]

It's cuz your conroe is 4mb l2 cache

I think 2MB models will do similar, maybe 1K-2K less than 4MB models

[865pe]

There *is* a very large difference- this is just 3158MHz:

T7200 mobile?

[cupholder2.0]

Quite a head scratcher...I still can't believe that this architecture relies so heavily on cache... core 2 is quite different from core, sort of sad to think that the cache by itself is where most of the oopmh seems to be coming from. :-/

There a lot more to core than just the cache . Like the 4 x86 decoders for example. But it does look somewhat cache dependent.

[[XC] moddolicous]

I suppose your running the mem 1:1 right fugger?? These are some very good results. A good chip running 6x400 with mem running 1:1. That sounds like a good gaming rig.

[Gautam]

There a lot more to core than just the cache . Like the 4 x86 decoders for example. But it does look somewhat cache dependent.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Which is why its so odd that a Yonah is able to keep up with it...I guess pi is just very cache-centric, in 3D it should be a different story.

[oijkue]

Are conroe and Allendale have the same die size?

[Evilsizer]

Are conroe and Allendale have the same die size?

allendale is conroe it just doesnt have the extra 2mb L2 enabled. What do you think they would do with all the early dies that had some bad L2 cache on it.

[s7e9h3n]

That's exactly what I'm saying. Which is why its so odd that a Yonah is able to keep up with it...I guess pi is just very cache-centric, in 3D it should be a different story.

For the most part, the shorter PI runs seem to be most affected by the difference in L2 Cache, but run a 32m and the gap lessens even more. Just take a look at the performance of Core Solo vs. Core Duo and you'll see what I mean