Quote Originally Posted by Tetedeiench View Post
We're not saying "this will happen in every game". We're saying "the design is flawed". We're saying "there's a possibility this will happen in another program". Why is that ? Because it happened in a legitimate program (OCCT is just a a DirectX9 scene, i remind you), so it can happen again.
It could happen again, but it seems unlikely. Programs doing a real workload aren't going to only be using such simple shaders and doing nothing else. Even the next closest stress program (furmark) doesn't come close - and the most stressful game or GPGPU app are even further from the limit then that.

It is possible that a program could reach the limit doing ordinary operations, but it's hard to imagine what it'd be doing (besides stress testing).

When the pentium bug appeared for Intel (remember : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug ), it appeared very rarely, and in very specific applications, and in none that were available publicly. Yet Intel did recall the CPUs Am i saying we do have the exact same thing ? No, the P4 bug wasn't stress related. Was the problem described by the one who discovered the Pentium bug a power virus ? No, of course not. Am i saying AMD should do the very same thing, a huge recall ? That's up to them, i am not knowlegdeable enough to be able to know if they should, or not. I'd say no, personally.
It would be a good move from the PR side of things but a bad move from the business side of things, IMO.

It's not like the chips themselves have a problem. It's just the card implementation details that are a problem. For the 99% of people that don't use OCCT, the reference board is fine. For the rest of us there are 4 phase boards and easy workarounds for 3 phase cards.

The real problem isn't deciding if a recall is a good idea, it's how to address this issue without it becoming a PR disaster. There are people out there who will use this as a chance to smear AMD, no matter how they handle it.

Quote Originally Posted by W1zzard View Post
i doubt the problem lies in 3 phase vs. 4 phase but ocp set too low vs. ocp set not too low
But wouldn't the 4 phase cards probably have a higher OCP limit as well?