Lynnfield 870, 860 and 750

[RPGWiZaRD]

There was no way Gulfy was coming to P55 or P57 anyway.

It's originally a Dual 1366 part. But even its 1366 variant I doubt, seeing as Intel doesn't need anything else right now to keep AMD at bay, at least until late 2010 when Bulldozer finally rears its lazy head.

Perkam

It doesn't even need Gulftown, socket 1156 would have been enough...

Which means it will be a rather boring period ahead with Intel controlling the desktop CPU market at least. AMD can't slash prices much more either or it will sell CPUs without profit. Bulldozer should have arrived early 2010 TBH. :/

[doompc]

I'm already seeing people buying a Core i5 motherboard with integrated graphics (the video output at least) and a Core i5 Lynnfield (wich has no gpu)...

[MomijiTMO]

Huh?

[Hornet331]

I'm already seeing people buying a Core i5 motherboard with integrated graphics (the video output at least) and a Core i5 Lynnfield (wich has no gpu)...

P55 and P57 dont have any FDI so there should be no problem. If you want output for clarkdale buy a H or Q chipset.

[doompc]

@Hornet331, I know that, but try to explain the average guy that a H55 board supports one kind of Core i5 but not another kind of Core i5.

At Computex I heard a lot of people complaining that you won't be able to have a quad core with integrated graphics.
Don't try to argue with them that if you don't need a good GPU you probably won't need a quad core cpu.
The point is that dumb people do this kind of things.

And this new "simple" naming scheme is very confusing. Two completely diferent processors under the same name will cause a lot of trouble.
I thought the Clarkdale will be called Core i3 e the Lynnfield Core i5/i7.
But having Clarkdale and Lynnfield under the Core i5 name just because they have the same thread count is just stupid.

[trinibwoy]

I gotta think the 7-series will be the sweet spot. Isn't the only difference going to be (essentially useless) HT support? I could see 3dmark fiends wanting that but for most people who don't have a need for 8 threads of anything I can't see the 8-series being that popular.

[Yakyb]

At Computex I heard a lot of people complaining that you won't be able to have a quad core with integrated graphics.

is this confirmed? surely not

[doompc]

Lynnfield doesn't have integrated GPU like Clarkdale and even if NVIDIA was able to make a chipset for the 1156 platform, it doesn't make sense to put a IGP on the DMI link.

[Frank M]

is this confirmed? surely not

Have you seen the first pics of Clarkdale?
There's two chips: one 32nm and on a separate die, the IGP and IMC
at 45nm.Even Clarkdale will only have onboard PCI-e, and no onboard
IGP. Clarkdale will only come in two-core configurations, no quad-core.
Lynnfield won't even have that second chip, it will not have on-die,
neither on-package IGP, the second chip wouldn't even fit under the
IHS as it is now.

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Me, unless some good but very processor-intensive game comes out,
I'll wait for 850, which should be 2.66G 4C/8T, and hopefully closer
to the $200 mark than the $300.

[Nedjo]

[RPGWiZaRD]

Nice Turbo Boost on Clarksfield... 60 - 77% overclocks. Maybe we soon see the return of Turbo button on our comp cases.

[Chickenfeed]

Personally I hope 860 will allow for easier 4.2~4.3GHz (200 - 205 BCLCK) stable clocks on air than 920.

Given >4Ghz + is more of a thermal issue for air, unless these run slightly cooler ( doubtfully ) I don't see them exceeding 4 on air. That would be quite optimistic.

I wish AMD could compete in this segment. The lack of competition is making the market stagnant. Sure gaming wise, PII vs I7 isn't that far apart but in everything else Intel holds a dominating lead. At least it is not as bad as the X2 days ( AMD had a severe monopoly then ) I'm able to stomach the CPU and memory prices at this point but I still think many of these x58 motherboards are way overpriced. I'm also not going to to change sockets over $100 give or take so at that point may as well get the better of the two. I've always spent a fair bit on my boards but Im starting to feel its been a waste as sometimes I feel what more did they really bring to the table.

[iTravis]

No one know for sure Intel will discontinue 920 when it launches 860 and 870? Cuz it doesn't make any sense to pay the same price for a lower clock 920 over a 870? Btw, does lower TDP allow better overclocking? Let just hope that the 860 will be the new legendary Q6600.

[Kingcarcas]

$300 for 8 threads? Dang, i might just look for a second hand Q9550.

[JargonGR]

Hold on a sec and help me out here please because I have fallen behind on the iCore platform. I am still on a Q9550 @ 4.1Ghz and I was wondering if it is worth it to switch to a iCore 7 920 just before it is phased out.

Is the new socket better/worse? If worse would you buy a 920 now only to have a cheaper entry point on the 1336 platform or would an 850 be a better choice speed wise?

[Helmore]

Hold on a sec and help me out here please because I have fallen behind on the iCore platform. I am still on a Q9550 @ 4.1Ghz and I was wondering if it is worth it to switch to a iCore 7 920 just before it is phased out.

Is the new socket better/worse? If worse would you buy a 920 now only to have a cheaper entry point on the 1336 platform or would an 850 be a better choice speed wise?

But Core i7 920 won't be phased out until sometime next year.

[>HyperlogiK<]

No one know for sure Intel will discontinue 920 when it launches 860 and 870? Cuz it doesn't make any sense to pay the same price for a lower clock 920 over a 870? Btw, does lower TDP allow better overclocking? Let just hope that the 860 will be the new legendary Q6600.

I for one might be tempted to choose an 860 or 870 and a P57 board over a 920 because of Braidwood. If it is out on schedule and if performance is as high as promised i.e. real world performance almost equal to current MLC SSDs when paired with a couple of HDDs in RAID 0 then it might make the P57 platform a better option for more frugal enthusiasts.

[algorhythm]

Am I the only one that doesn't like that core i7 is a two-socket platform? Intel really just put out too many too similar chips. Their options were to make all of socket 1156 Core i5, and have Core i5 Lynnfield be very similar in performance to core i7 Nehalam, or to make Lynnfield Core i7 and have Core i7 be on two different platforms. Eww.

[GAR]

if thats correct, is HT worth another $90 ?

it could make a 30% difference with the right software.

[Hornet331]

it could make a 30% difference with the right software.

or more, CFD apps just love HT (~60% more performance between HT on/off)