The E7200 (Good overclocker?)

[SmellTheFart]

Is it true the E7200 is a great overclocker due to the fact it has 1066MHz FSB instead of 1333? Never noticed this though but since the "older" 1066 chips overclock better with 1333mhz boards this would be a killer chip for overclocking wouldn't it?

There's probably other threads about this, just wanted to know if it's true or if E8400 is a better overclocker?

[Celcius]

Here's the only OCing review I've seen of the e7200:
http://techgage.com/article/intel_co...t_superstar/13

Still, I'm looking forward to getting one for a second rig. 45nm + 3mb L2 cache + low price = best bang for buck

[TheKarmakazi]

depends on what you want to do with it. I wouldnt say its a great Oc'er just because of its FSB speed. It has potential since it has a 9.5 multi, but it also appears as if you will need high voltage to achieve xtreme clocks. so this would obviously require extreme cooling maybe some ln2 or cascade.

I would imagine in almost all cases the 8400 will give you better overclock. from the above article they hit 3.6ghz (unstable though) at 1.55v. At 1.55v my e8400 comes close to hitting 4.8Ghz. Just my 2 cents.

[Leeghoofd]

think with the same voltage indeed you can go way higher with the more expensive E8400... hope to have my 2 E8400's on thursday, will post back what they can do... if you can do the same clocks with the E7200 I'll be damned

[SmellTheFart]

depends on what you want to do with it. I wouldnt say its a great Oc'er just because of its FSB speed. It has potential since it has a 9.5 multi, but it also appears as if you will need high voltage to achieve xtreme clocks. so this would obviously require extreme cooling maybe some ln2 or cascade.

I would imagine in almost all cases the 8400 will give you better overclock. from the above article they hit 3.6ghz (unstable though) at 1.55v. At 1.55v my e8400 comes close to hitting 4.8Ghz. Just my 2 cents.

Well, the Gigabyte X38-DQ6 you have supports 1600mhz fsb, if the board only supports 1333 wouldn't it be harder overclocking an E8400 since it already have 1333?

[Leeghoofd]

E8400 even loves 450 FSB mate, so with 9 multi around 4.05Ghz at 1.3-1.4 volts, if you can come even close to that with ya E7200, you will a) need way more Vcore and b) prolly never get the CPU stable with normal cooling... as it will put out loads of heat...

For the mobo's any decent P35/X38/48 chipset mobo can handle 400-450FSB with these Wolfdale CPU's... no worries...

[SmellTheFart]

E8400 even loves 450 FSB mate, so with 9 multi around 4.05Ghz at 1.3-1.4 volts, if you can come even close to that with ya E7200, you will a) need way more Vcore and b) prolly never get the CPU stable with normal cooling... as it will put out loads of heat...

For the mobo's any decent P35/X38/48 chipset mobo can handle 400-450FSB with these Wolfdale CPU's... no worries...

I've heard the 1066 and 800 mhz cpus overclock better than 1333, so it's just false what I've heard?

[Leeghoofd]

that all depends on point of view take eg an E2140 running at 8 x 200FSB, if you are lucky you can get that chip on air to 100% OC so to make it run at 3.2ghz... that might sound impressive but if you compare it's performance to eg a stock E6600 at 2.4Ghz it will have a hard time beating it in game performance due to the lower cache and co...

You can say that they OC better % wise going from 266mhz ( so 1066 ) to 450FSB but most older generation top out around 3.8-4ghz level on air ... With the older generation you will need at least 1.45volts to get that stable with loads of heatoutput... The new Wolfdale 45nm CPU's use less Vcore, have bigger cache and they run cooler...

Secondly the older generation still retails at pretty sucky prices. Take eg E6850 still retails around the same price level as the E8400 so who's gonna buy those old CPU's ? Only fools do...

Best dual core clocker is the E8400... % wise it might not be as impressive but it has way more calculation power than any of the older generation... E7200 might look good on paper but will not be competitive at the same clocks speeds as E8400...

[Weelkoo]

link to my review:

http://www.frazpc.pl/artykuly/588/CO...nm/ciag/dalszy

in polish, but CPU-Z screens and diagrams are the most important thing

stable:

3,2GHz @ default (~1,18V)
3,5GHz @ ~1,25V
3,8GHz @ ~1,35V
3,9GHz @ ~1,4V

4,0GHz was stable at ~1,45V REAL but this is IMHO to high voltage for 45nm cooled by AC for 24/7 settings (in this way I 'killed' 3 pcs of E8x00)

[SRV]

Good review.

Zegar na poziomie 3,8~3,9GHz przy realnym napięciu zasilającym CPU rzędu 1,35~1,4V należy uznać za wynik co najmniej przyzwoity i - co ważne - porównywalny z przeciętnymi możliwościami OC najnowszych procesorów E8200. Tu jednak zegar ten osiągnąć można przy zdecydowanie niższym FSB.

This means that maximum Vcore for 45nm cpu's is between 1.35 and 1.4V? That's all what i'm asking for, ~3.8GHz with 1.35~1.4V.

[RunawayPrisoner]

I've heard the 1066 and 800 mhz cpus overclock better than 1333, so it's just false what I've heard?

To put it simply: depends on the board. But mostly fault.

[Weelkoo]

Good review.


This means that maximum Vcore for 45nm cpu's is between 1.35 and 1.4V? That's all what i'm asking for, ~3.8GHz with 1.35~1.4V.

what You quoted means:

'Clock around 3,8~3,9GHz with VCore at 1,35~1,4V is really good result and - what is very important - comparable to average OC of new E8200 CPU's. Big advantage of E7200 is fact, that in this case You can achieve such clock with lower FSB'

but yes, I think that for 45nm CPU VCore for 24/7 settings with air cooling should be lower than 1,4V. This is why I decided to test this CPU @ 3,8GHz

PS. Forgive me my english as I'm self-educated in this language

[Corsa]

Nice site u got there Weelkoo ....any idea how to translate to english?

[SRV]

what You quoted means:

'Clock around 3,8~3,9GHz with VCore at 1,35~1,4V is really good result and - what is very important - comparable to average OC of new E8200 CPU's. Big advantage of E7200 is fact, that in this case You can achieve such clock with lower FSB'

but yes, I think that for 45nm CPU VCore for 24/7 settings with air cooling should be lower than 1,4V. This is why I decided to test this CPU @ 3,8GHz

PS. Forgive me my english as I'm self-educated in this language

Thanks for reply, the fact that i don't need high fsb is why i'm bying e7200 instead of something else, because my ddr2 memory doesn't go higher than 840MHz, so, that's 420MHz FSB. Still lot of space with E7200.

BTW i'm also self-educated in english.

Nice site u got there Weelkoo ....any idea how to translate to english?

Afaik, there is no online translater for polish, too bad because they have some very good tests, better than most sites on english.

[SmellTheFart]

Afaik, there is no online translater for polish, too bad because they have some very good tests, better than most sites on english.

http://www.poltran.com/
http://www.e-freetranslation.com/

[Weelkoo]

http://www.poltran.com/
http://www.e-freetranslation.com/

both of them are really poor translators for polish (especially e-freentranslation.com which doesn't recognize words with polish signs such as ą, ę, ć) - try to translate f.e. this sentence:

'Zegar na poziomie 3,8~3,9GHz przy realnym napięciu zasilającym CPU rzędu 1,35~1,4V należy uznać za wynik co najmniej przyzwoity i - co ważne - porównywalny z przeciętnymi możliwościami OC najnowszych procesorów E8200. Tu jednak zegar ten osiągnąć można przy zdecydowanie niższym FSB.'

this is correct translation:

''Clock around 3,8~3,9GHz with VCore at 1,35~1,4V is really good result and - what is very important - comparable to average OC of new E8200 CPU's. Big advantage of E7200 is fact, that in this case You can achieve such clock with lower FSB''

[SRV]

http://www.poltran.com/
http://www.e-freetranslation.com/

My bad, i forgot to say no working translators.

[Teccxpert]

Here's what I get with this E7200 using x64 Vista: