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Thread: i680 RAID 0 Performance - is it bunged?

  1. 01-03-2007, 04:14 PM #1
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    i680 RAID 0 Performance - is it bunged?

    Updated Jan 9th: As per Post #43, perhaps the problem with RAID 0 performance on the i680 is related to the EVGA boards which both Tom's and Fugger's results (below) are based on? It would be great if others with Striker and EVGA boards could post some RAID HDTach results for us to review.

    Original Post:

    Both Tom's Hardware: The Southbridge Battle...

    and Fugger: eVGA Review seem to have found consistent poor RAID 0 performance on the i680 compared to Intel chipsets.

    Why are the Intel SB's so much better? Why is the i680 so bad?

    Are others finding this as well with their i680 boards?

    Even my nForce4 board does 150MBs HDTach with old 74GB Raptors!

    i680...



    Compared to the ICH8...



    Or ICH7R...



    Fugger's results...

    Last edited by virtualrain; 01-09-2007 at 01:49 PM. Reason: Added Fugger's results as well
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  2. 01-03-2007, 04:18 PM #2
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    Haha, can't belief they didn't pick that up.

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    Edit: Maybe they haven't flashed to the latest BIOS
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    Sometimes the images do work and sometimes they don't... I can't figure it out... the links are correct.

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    Tom's hardware is a joke imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by virtualrain
    is Tom's on Crack?
    Pretty much.
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    Tom's is about as reliable as The Inq.
    Last edited by J-Mag; 01-04-2007 at 03:23 PM.
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  8. 01-03-2007, 04:39 PM #8
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    What about this ???? (NF4) but it shouldn't perform like this ...

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=128777
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  9. 01-03-2007, 04:41 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Mag
    Tom's is about are reliable as The Inq.
    Now that's what I call trashing... the Inq
    Tom is crap, get over it, what did you expect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Mag
    Tom's is about are reliable as The Inq.
    For the most part it is...
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  11. 01-03-2007, 07:20 PM #11
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    wow I was under the impression Toms was pretty reputable (at least back in the day it was). This is a shock to me.
    As an owner of the 680 I was unhappy with some of Tom's comments.

    Plus they did not even mention the Packet Priority features on the LAN nor the hardware firewall.
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  12. 01-03-2007, 07:23 PM #12
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    ditto, never realized tom might not be telling me the full truth. always thought of the site as fairly reputable.
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    Years ago tom was pretty much the only game in town and then a very young Anand came along, tom went heavy sponsors and in fact so much so its hard to wade through them all just to find anything.
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    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=122354

    Seems to match what Fugger found....third to last picture.
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    Tom's is way crap and has been for 5 years or so...back in the day (mid to late 90's) he was probably the most trusted hw site but they pretty much suck these days...I miss Sharkey Extreme (with the real Sharkey).
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    how do these results stack up in REAL WORLD applications that benefit from HDD speed that would be a more interesting result to check........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tac0
    Tom's is way crap and has been for 5 years or so...back in the day (mid to late 90's) he was probably the most trusted hw site but they pretty much suck these days...I miss Sharkey Extreme (with the real
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    If you want good review sites try X-Bit Labs and TheTechReport. Hothardware and Legitreviews are worth a look too.
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    Yup, stopped visiting Tom's a while back due to the excessive amount of advertising (which also seemed to bias some 'reviews' imo).

    Having recently owned all 3 chipsets I can honestly say I saw very little, if any, difference in speed or reliability in 'real world apps' using Raid 0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ic3man
    Yup, stopped visiting Tom's a while back due to the excessive amount of advertising (which also seemed to bias some 'reviews' imo).

    Having recently owned all 3 chipsets I can honestly say I saw very little, if any, difference in speed or reliability in 'real world apps' using Raid 0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedld9
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=122354

    Seems to match what Fugger found....third to last picture.
    Yikes... Maybe Tom's is not on crack. It would appear there is indeed something wrong with the RAID 0 performance of the i680. That's terrible and about a third the throughput of the Intel chipsets. Why hasn't anyone been harping on this?
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    The lousy RAID 0 performance is a feature...

    NVidia makes the best chipsets...ask them, they'll tell you. They have our best interests at heart, and have strongly encouraged (forced) enthusiasts to use their chipsets by not permitting SLI on non-NVidia chipsets. This is to preserve the integrity of SLI (hold enthusiasts over a barrel for more money for an inferior product).

    I'm sure they'll release a 690i next month that enhances the performance of the 680i by TRIPLING the RAID 0 throughput!!! Wow...we'll all have to get one of those...
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    I'm interested in knowing if this is a wide-spread problem. Are other i680 users running RAID 0? If so, what are your HDTach results like?

    How can the Intel chipsets be so much faster?

    My NF4 Mobo can do 150MB/s with old 74GB Raptors in RAID 0... this i680 performance is terrible!
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    my raid 0 performance is not too good on this chipset , had better numbers with the asus ws pro, but that board was too buggy for me!
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