oh noes! another n00b question..

[xt0m]

Ellow from Denmark, peeps. My first post on XS, w00t

I was hoping you guys could give me some advice on which components to use for my current system (no budget) - see system details in the siggie. I can run it rock stable at 3.2 GHz but I get too high temps for my taste; 56/62 (idle/load - Zalman Reserator 1+)..

(Wrt water cooling I'm a total n00b yet I have read most available guides I could find around the net.. I've been overclocking since Pentium133-days and assembled more systems than I can count, so no worries there)

I'm currently stuck at the following choices:

Fan(s): 120 mm Papst 4412/F2GLL (18 db, 70 cfm)
Rad: D-TEK Pro-120 Core *
Tube: 12 mm, 10 mm inside
Reservoir: D-TEK Bay-Rez 5,25
CPU-WB: EK Wave (AMD64)
Chipset: EK NF4 rev. 1.1
Pump: Laing D5 **

* = Was looking at gocchin's solution with the Antec case but not sure I wanna get into that, so considering a external triple/+.. Prolly Thermochill PA120.3 or a MO-RA 2 Core?

** = Is it overkill with a D5? I do want lower temps, but on the other hand I dont need a rig under the desk that sounds like an A380 at take-off

Thanx in advance, peeps

[eXa]

do you have any of that equipment or are you just considering those?

there are better options out there!

[xt0m]

do you have any of that equipment or are you just considering those?

Nothing bought yet, m8

[eXa]

storm v2 cpu or Cooltechnica MP-05 LE
pa 120.3 rad
mcw60 gpu
mcw30 chipset
t-line
3 yate loon fans
ddc+1
7\16 tygon tube

should be rather smashing(and expensive)

[xt0m]

storm v2 cpu or Cooltechnica MP-05 LE
pa 120.3 rad
mcw60 gpu
mcw30 chipset
t-line
3 yate loon fans
ddc+1
7\16 tygon tube

should be rather smashing(and expensive)

Only thing I know in that array is the rad and the pump - which I was told should be quite noisy, hence the D5 selection.

[eXa]

ddc1+ ant supposed to be noisy! you can take the 10w version instead then! doesnt get much more silent than that(not with any performance atleast!) and its still beats the d5!(well, dont know about the new d5 though)

[xt0m]

umm.. I'm thinking about the D5 with a reo on it, same one?

I'm reading up on the Storm V2 as we speak..

[Visioneer]

umm.. I'm thinking about the D5 with a reo on it, same one?

I'm reading up on the Storm V2 as we speak..

I would agrue if the storm is worth the extra money compared to the apogee, when it was $50 it was a fair price but $80...

[creidiki]

DDC-1+ with plexi top is quieter than the D5, and a better pump. Take it. DDC-Ultra, is the name they sell the Plus with Plexi-top in europe.

*shrug* Storm is premium. I'd take the "AquaXtreme MP-05 PRO Limited Edition CPU Water Block (delrin)" from extremeprometeia.com, it costs like 25% less than a storm here in the EU/UK - 39£ vs. 55£.

[Repoman]

little ot, but nice oc !

What volts and temps?

[creidiki]

ooo, 3.2, that is rather spiffeh :o

[xt0m]

DDC-1+ with plexi top is quieter than the D5, and a better pump. Take it. DDC-Ultra, is the name they sell the Plus with Plexi-top in europe.

*shrug* Storm is premium. I'd take the "AquaXtreme MP-05 PRO Limited Edition CPU Water Block (delrin)" from extremeprometeia.com, it costs like 25% less than a storm here in the EU/UK - 39£ vs. 55£.

Hmm.. I'm prolly using the wrong webshop then (a danish one), they have a "DDC-1T-PLUS" without the plexi top (at £55) and a "DDC-ULTRA" with plexi top (at £65)..

Is the AE MP-05 Pro LE the same as the Cooltechnica one?

[xt0m]

little ot, but nice oc! What volts and temps?

CPU @ 1.475 - sadly temps are too high with this Zalman; 56 idle, 62 load
(RAM @ 2.9v) But I chose it coz of the noiseless operation anyways, so..

ooo, 3.2, that is rather spiffeh :o

ty

[creidiki]

yup, cooltechnica are the manufacturers of AE gear, and E-P are one of the few (only?) EU/UK importers.

Ultra is the one you want, unless you wanna do the 1/2 barb, top inlet mod yourself.

[xt0m]

Ultra is the one you want, unless you wanna do the 1/2 barb, top inlet mod yourself.

nah.. preferably not ..I couldnt find a PRO LE tho, only an SP LE..

[creidiki]

http://extremeprometeia.com/acatalog/aqz.html

You want the delrin midplate version, not polycarbonate.

Diff between Pro LE and SP LE is SP is more expensive and has brass top.

[xt0m]

mkay

I read summat about the "t-line" eXa mentioned earlier, so prolly gonna go along with that - I didnt fully understand how ya bleed it tho..

Do you know what the "mcw60" and "mcw30" are?
- I've never seen or heard of "yate loon" fans btw..

[creidiki]

MCW30 is the swiftech chipset block. If it fits on your mobo, its the best one around, as it has the lowest restriction oout of all nb blocks.

MCW60 is the swiftech GPU block. Other options are the AE MP-1 (pretty cheap from E-P), DangerDen Maze4, or the Watercool.de GPU-X.

MCW60 is nice if you can fidn the version that comes bundled with the swiftech MCR14 ramsinks - best ramsinks around if youre not gonna have a fan pointed right at them, so generally the best ramsinks for watercooling.

Yate Loons are the best (and cheapest) silent fans around. Check ebay.de for a dude that sells them, theyre like 8€ a pop.

T-Line is the cheapest and most performing way to fill & bleed your loop - just a t-piece set before your pump inlet with a 5+cm piece of tubing you use to fill your loop, capped with something... i use a sawed-off spindle from a dvd spindle. You can see some shots in the thread in my sig.

[xt0m]

MCW30 is the swiftech chipset block. If it fits on your mobo, its the best one around, as it has the lowest restriction oout of all nb blocks.

MCW60 is the swiftech GPU block. Other options are the AE MP-1 (pretty cheap from E-P), DangerDen Maze4, or the Watercool.de GPU-X.

MCW60 is nice if you can fidn the version that comes bundled with the swiftech MCR14 ramsinks - best ramsinks around if youre not gonna have a fan pointed right at them, so generally the best ramsinks for watercooling.

Yate Loons are the best (and cheapest) silent fans around. Check ebay.de for a dude that sells them, theyre like 8€ a pop.

T-Line is the cheapest and most performing way to fill & bleed your loop - just a t-piece set before your pump inlet with a 5+cm piece of tubing you use to fill your loop, capped with something... i use a sawed-off spindle from a dvd spindle. You can see some shots in the thread in my sig.

Well, the Yate Loon's cost roughly the same as the Papst, I listed earlier - and the Papst's are more silent and have a higher output..

I need to find some more EU resellers, atm I'm stuck with danish ones

Couldnt really tell where that sawed-off spindle was on your pics

[creidiki]

Papst are lying.

[xt0m]

Ah, well.. But it aint overkill with three Yate Loon D12SL-12's on a PA120.3 ?

[creidiki]

No. Best fans for PAs. Theyre what thermochill officialy recommends, even though we cant get them locally in the uk

[WildEye]

Why would you think 3 yate loons are overkill for a PA120.3?

I have this setup and its sweet. I might not be as sensitive as some, but at 12v the fans are pretty quiet, at 7v you have to be within 20 cm of the fan to hear it.

Haven't tested the Papst but after trying Yates there are just no going back

[sdkevin]

just want to add something to it, the price of Yates are unbeatable

[xt0m]

Why would you think 3 yate loons are overkill for a PA120.3?

I dunno what to expect, thats it really