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    Question Reviews where they compare: Swiftech MCW60 vs Maze4???

    Anyone seen any reviews on the Swiftech MCW60 where they put it up against the Maze4?

    I haven't been able to find one...
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    Nope - too new a block (MCW60) for anyone of any merit to have done such...

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    Best bet is to wait till Maxxx gets round to doing it in a week or 2, but seeing as its not v different from the MCW55, chances are its just as good or better... which would make it a pretty good block, and those ramsinks make it a winner, imo
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    after OCIA's review of the Apogee, i wont even click on that link.

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    FWIW, i'll be reviewing the MCW60 vs Maze4 vs MP-1. Probably won't be as in depth as what Maxx or a site like Procooling, but my intentions are to test the blocks by themselves in the loop(no cpu block) and against the 5 different pump settings of the D5. It's the best I can give ya folks for what I have. But I think it'll provide more information than just "this block gave me 1C better temps than this block at full load"
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    I would to see that. IF if its that much better I might have to give up my maze 4
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    I dont think it will be very different, its just that its tall enough for those ramsinks, which are sooo nice if you dont have a fan blowing on the card.
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    Yeah, plus the MCW60-Ramsinks combo price when compared to the Maze4 makes it very attractive.
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    creidiki, why not to buy those ramsinks separately?
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    Because theyre too high to fit with a Maze 4. I dont really feel like shaving them off to fit, cause ill be left with about half the sinks.

    Also, i canna get them in the uk, captain. *looks pointedly @ marci*

    And as Makubex pointed out, the price of the MCW60 + Ramsinks vs the similarly-performing (probably) maze 4...
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    Quote Originally Posted by creidiki
    Because theyre too high to fit with a Maze 4. I dont really feel like shaving them off to fit, cause ill be left with about half the sinks.

    Also, i canna get them in the uk, captain. *looks pointedly @ marci*

    And as Makubex pointed out, the price of the MCW60 + Ramsinks vs the similarly-performing (probably) maze 4...
    I just happen to have a maze 4 and an mcw60 sitting right in front of me here, the barbs for both of these blocks sit at the same exact height. I will take pictures later to show. So if the ramsinks work with the MCW60, they should be fine for the maze4, unless of course you are talking about the low profile maze 4 in which case they won't work. Matter of fact you'll have issues with the copper OCZ ramsinks that DD sells also, I did with my 7800 GTX and my low profile maze 4 and the OCZ ramsinks, had to modify one of them that was under the barb to fit.
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    Hmm, really? I always thought the MCW60 was higher. Seems I was wrong, good! ^^

    In that case, if someone in the UK gets some ill have to order a set, the OCZ ones arent that good with the unfocused airflow in my case.
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    any updates?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad213Boy
    any updates?

    MadMikeSS's review is here -
    DangerDen Maze 4, AquaXtreme MP-1 and Swiftech MCW60 Performance Comparison

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    i have the mcw60 with the sinks. on my x1900 (bought it like that) And 2 of the sinks are cut down. havent checked if it could be worked around...

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    nice review of alle the blocks. but a theoretical test on a diesim would have been more interesting as differences are better to sort out there. the differences can easily turn the opposite with a second mount. in a theoretical plattform, you could simulate more watts (r580 or even R600) and sort these issues out with multiple mounts.

    I am impressed with how little these blocks scale with flowrates. That makes one thing clear again: Laminar flow blocks or blocks without nozzles or jets or other turbulence creating devices do not scale with flowrate in a normal watercooling setup in a measureable way.

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    ahh so they rate the MP-1 with a slight .5 degree better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMikeSS
    I just happen to have a maze 4 and an mcw60 sitting right in front of me here, the barbs for both of these blocks sit at the same exact height. I will take pictures later to show. So if the ramsinks work with the MCW60, they should be fine for the maze4, unless of course you are talking about the low profile maze 4 in which case they won't work. Matter of fact you'll have issues with the copper OCZ ramsinks that DD sells also, I did with my 7800 GTX and my low profile maze 4 and the OCZ ramsinks, had to modify one of them that was under the barb to fit.
    MC14 are very tall heatsinks and can't be mount underneath the barbs on both Maze4 and MCW60. I have a Maze4 with MC14 and they need to be cut down to fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidzo
    nice review of alle the blocks. but a theoretical test on a diesim would have been more interesting as differences are better to sort out there. the differences can easily turn the opposite with a second mount. in a theoretical plattform, you could simulate more watts (r580 or even R600) and sort these issues out with multiple mounts.

    I am impressed with how little these blocks scale with flowrates. That makes one thing clear again: Laminar flow blocks or blocks without nozzles or jets or other turbulence creating devices do not scale with flowrate in a normal watercooling setup in a measureable way.
    Screw the die sim. I think pulling a block for a working loop and replacing it - keeping ambient and everything else the same would be much more indicitive of real world performance that using a die sim. Simulation and real world are much different, i prefer real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creidiki
    Because theyre too high to fit with a Maze 4. I dont really feel like shaving them off to fit, cause ill be left with about half the sinks.

    Also, i canna get them in the uk, captain. *looks pointedly @ marci*

    And as Makubex pointed out, the price of the MCW60 + Ramsinks vs the similarly-performing (probably) maze 4...
    I bent mine octopus style, (have to find my camera, grr).

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