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    Looking good dude. Can't wait to play with the head you make

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    Kayl

    What is your opinion on operating 24/7 and operating 12hrs/day ie switch off and on? There are a lot of different opinions and success on mounting, these seem to depend upon evap mounting as well, ie how well they trap cold. Can phase really be used relibly?

    Like here prob on condensation http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=98201l

    and evap mounts like here
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=103256 etc.

    What type of mount do u use for your units? Are you putting anymore development into those? Will those be suitable for dual cpu board?

    It seems that the biggest prob is to ensure air tight seal around CPU socket, with comments being posted that more difficult on LGA775. Have you got a preferred method or is that MOB dependent and / or try it and see?

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    i have the same question also...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete
    Looking good dude. Can't wait to play with the head you make
    hope it serves ya well, is that a unit ya making or one graymole did?

    Quote Originally Posted by gazzoom
    Kayl

    What is your opinion on operating 24/7 and operating 12hrs/day ie switch off and on? There are a lot of different opinions and success on mounting, these seem to depend upon evap mounting as well, ie how well they trap cold. Can phase really be used relibly?

    Like here prob on condensation http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=98201l

    and evap mounts like here
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=103256 etc.

    What type of mount do u use for your units? Are you putting anymore development into those? Will those be suitable for dual cpu board?

    It seems that the biggest prob is to ensure air tight seal around CPU socket, with comments being posted that more difficult on LGA775. Have you got a preferred method or is that MOB dependent and / or try it and see?

    if your gonna use 24/7 its very important that you make the socket airtight. any little air gaps mush be filled either grease or enclosed foam. remember any air gaps the cold is gonna draw the moisture out of that air and form condensation.
    i currently fill my socket with dielectric grease and thats it.
    FOr the 775 socket its very important that you dont let the cooler reach say -45c or colder before booting as the 775 socket is very tight and not much room for insulation. If you load the board you have no issues as the caps around the socket get really hot and act like a heat plate.

    here ya can see eva2000 using a system i made on an AMD fx60 system
    he runs his up to 24hrs sometime no issues.
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=102470

    if the mount plate has hose for the Xeon so no reason why couldnt use dual heads. FOr cascades and auto cascades its important again you dont let the system get too cold before booting, ie -45c i would boot mine at once at -100c the mobo should be warm and stop the creep of the insulation

    this is how i insulate my mobo, air tight so no condensation.







    Last edited by kayl; 07-04-2006 at 04:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayl
    KAYL! what's going on with those caps at the top of the image?!

    Gonna need your help insulating my new mobo when I get it

    Also I am wanting to acoustically insulate the bottom chamber of the V2000 as much as possible so if you can recommend some REMOVABLE foam (static/suction instead of adhesive) That would be awesome Otherwise I'll use magnetic tape... damn aluminium is non-magnetizable though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephilim
    KAYL! what's going on with those caps at the top of the image?!

    Gonna need your help insulating my new mobo when I get it

    Also I am wanting to acoustically insulate the bottom chamber of the V2000 as much as possible so if you can recommend some REMOVABLE foam (static/suction instead of adhesive) That would be awesome Otherwise I'll use magnetic tape... damn aluminium is non-magnetizable though.

    The 775 sockets are real tight, ie the caps are very close to the socket. The caps with those little dents in are where I have screwed the enclose exact square with mobo and the enclosure rests against it. I now just off set the evap enclose a small amount so it doesn’t come into contact with the caps any more. The hole of the CPu does make contact with the evap head though. In my next revision evap head enclosure ill be fixing that and adding the AMD2 holes as well
    Sorry I cant recommend REMOVABLE foam, when ya come around gonna have to show me what ya mean and see what we can come up with. Yeah it is a pitty magnets don’t stick to aluminium.

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    i noticed this on sunday and ordered a new supply.
    high current draw on my 500w psu that connector couldnt handle it i guess. and only with a pci gpu as well no sli cards or crossfire.



    so i replaced it with this






    got the gfroster working today.








    wiring




    Last edited by kayl; 07-18-2006 at 09:01 AM.

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    OMG kayl maybe you should get thermaltakes newest invention before you toast that one also http://www.thermaltake.com/product/P...0130/w0130.asp
    Mobo: Asus P5Q-E
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    Storage: Samsung F1 32mb cache 750Gb
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    PSU: Corsair HX 620watt

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    Wow Kayl iam really impressed. The system looks REALLY clean. Guess you gave up on the duct tape and wood

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSU
    Wow Kayl iam really impressed. The system looks REALLY clean. Guess you gave up on the duct tape and wood

    thanxs man, aerotape is alot better than what i use to use
    got some new compressors to ty today.
    Theres a 1/4 hp same as in last build and a 1/3Hp r404/507 LBP compressor to try @ 12cc/rev. Strange the 1/4Hp has 14.1cc/rev but is physically smaller. Its just a r12 compressor though.



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    dual head unit, im prity sure its gonna be a nb/cpu








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    r290/r507/r410a blend on 1/4hp kirby
    first turn on for day takes 3mins to reach -42c settling at -44c ilde until loaded.
    aroud -40c after that. load 2001 -37 -36c.
    dual prime for 1 hour -33c.



    Last edited by kayl; 10-23-2006 at 08:38 AM.

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    Nice looking unit

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    thanxs little devil

    well finally finished this unit, i justed ended up taking out the gfroster Xe1.2 controller as it doenst work, still waiting on parts to fix the broken controller.
    start up issues (trips) and character display errors.
    So i just installed a basic temp probe that reads to -50c.

    1/4Hp kirby with r290/R507 I glued some sound proofing inslation to the enclosure to quieten it up a tad more.









    Last edited by kayl; 10-26-2006 at 06:16 PM.

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    green SS 3dmark05 -42c average -39c max
    4050mhz 1.7bios 1.61 real, -37c load dual prime -44c idle.







    Last edited by kayl; 10-28-2006 at 11:53 PM.

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    Kayl it time for you to buy a box & pan brake and a metal jump shear. make your own cases for the cost of the metal, about 20.00 dollars a little higher if alluminium,
    The Laws of Thermodynamics say:

    Zeroth Law: "You must play the game."
    First Law: "You can't win."
    Second Law: "You can't break even."
    Third Law: "You can't quit the game."

    Do you wanna Play Thermodynamics ???????? I forgot "you must"

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    Yo Kayl where you get all those damn cube condensers? They're like a rarity in the USA, and i've got 4 in my workshop and havent seen another for sale in weeks.


    If you have a cooling question or concern feel free to contact me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wdrzal
    Kayl it time for you to buy a box & pan brake and a metal jump shear. make your own cases for the cost of the metal, about 20.00 dollars a little higher if alluminium,
    it would be fun but alot of work wdrzal. I dont mind getting cases made, my new case is gonna have studs for compressor, studs for gfroster controller and also pems for the sinde pannels and compressor base to screw unit together. no more tapping holes .


    Quote Originally Posted by n00b 0f l337
    Yo Kayl where you get all those damn cube condensers? They're like a rarity in the USA, and i've got 4 in my workshop and havent seen another for sale in weeks.
    would you belive thes are are a few years old. i got them back when chilly first got them, i also bough a bunch off drewminister ages back.
    I still got 2 left

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    working on the dual head project hoping to finish next
    first take off the nb, seems that one corner of my core is missing heatpaste.
    Nb suction line finished.







    Last edited by kayl; 11-03-2006 at 07:20 AM.

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    almost ready to vacuum.




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    assembled just got to do the last insulating on mobo before i can bench tonight.









    Last edited by kayl; 11-06-2006 at 04:45 AM.

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    Final check to make sure die is centre then insulate and bench.
    -35c cpu head and -20c nb for 3dmark o1 bench.
    290/507/410a
    i didnt have a back plate on the cpu head, im getting some more made soon.
    cpu was unstable for dual prime.
    but with a 8x i still couldnt get past 457fsb, i think mobo doesnt like this ram cpu combo?






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    nice work kayl =D

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    thanxs gkiing
    idle -40c cpu and -15c NB.
    funny for 3dmark05 NB sits around -25c cpu -38c
    spi the NB is a little cooler again cant remember
    orthos loads the cooler tones more and temps even out at around -32c cpu and NB -34c.
    and all test on 3dmark 01 -35c cpu and -20c NB
    seems really heavy load the NB gets alot cooler
    after a few hours the NB idle gets to -25 but it takes a hour or so











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    great

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