Crucial says no more 2 gig balistix will be sold.

[ozzimark]

Who wants to have RAM that they believe will crap out in a month? Then have to wait for RMA, and repeat..

yes, but the fact that they won't be sold shouldn't effect that process

[Lood007]

I say after 3 RMAs I should be entitled to a real solution. Such a waste of time and money to keep RMAing, sticks die, RMA, sticks die, etc...

[Vapor]

I had two sets die....sold the third set I got back without even touching them. Smart move, eh?

I don't think that this is a temporary thing either guys...DDR is on its way out of the high-end market in the coming months and Micron probably doesn't want to spend the money appeasing a small part of the market that would be oh-so-cautious after TWO out of three high-end 2GB sets that aren't problem free (their own 5B -D and Infineon's CE die).

Rest assured, UCCC is getting better and NO ONE has had a problem yet.

[Coroner Kyle]

I had two sets die....sold the third set I got back without even touching them. Smart move, eh?

I don't think that this is a temporary thing either guys...DDR is on its way out of the high-end market in the coming months and Micron probably doesn't want to spend the money appeasing a small part of the market that would be oh-so-cautious after TWO 2GB sets that aren't problem free (their own 5B -D and Infineon's CE die).

Rest assured, UCCC is getting better and NO ONE has had a problem yet.

Yes smart move, I think I will do the same if mine die that many times.

I don't blame Micron either, they've got be gearing up for AMD's move to DDR2. AMD has got a large following and a lot of them are OC'ers so put the money in the future.

What companies are using UCCC right now?

[OV3RCLOCK3R]

BAH!! Was just looking to buy some. Guess i'll get some mushkin or UCCC

[thinkingbear]

any links to anything official for this?

I "broke" this story yesterday. No offical links, just go to the web site. No 1 GB PC4000 listed, ask thier "experts" they will confirm.

[STEvil]

i'd pick be/ce over uccc probably.

[situman]

i'd pick be/ce over uccc probably.

high speed be/ce costs almost 50% more for minimal performance gain. Not worth it at all.

[mdzcpa]

Its always like that at first.

They are stable for a month or two then crap out.

Not always. I have 2 pair running fine...1 set on 3 months, and the other on a little over 4 months. They haven't degraded a single mhz.

The set I bought in the summer did die and I rma'd them in late Sept.

Although I don't like the odd's, and I don't suggest them to folks, they are hit n miss. Not ALL sticks die. Just too many though. Its a shame.

[DriveEuro]

About freaking time they discontinue this crap ram. I had two sets die on me since July. Just last week I smartened up and bought some GSKILL instead.

I was never so pissed with ram as I was with the Ballistix. Spent $178 a stick for it back in July when it came out... Man did I get screwed reselling my RMAed sticks.

[s7e9h3n]

Even if Crucial has stopped producing these sticks, I have a feeling it won't be the last we see of the IC's

[Lood007]

That wouldn't be so bad if the next batch of ICs were fixed of this rediculous problem!
Ram should not just decay in performace at its rated settings! There's obviously something being done wrong in the manufacturing of this junk.

[ozzimark]

Even if Crucial has stopped producing these sticks, I have a feeling it won't be the last we see of the IC's

almost what i was trying to say.. i think it's more that we won't see any more ballistix with the current ic, but something new.

[Vapor]

Even if Crucial has stopped producing these sticks, I have a feeling it won't be the last we see of the IC's

Do we want to see the ICs again?

[Punisher!]

No probl. m8s, since there are the New TeamGroup with Micron chips! And they are already available here in Italy (and cheaper too :P)!

TEAM GROUP DDR500 PC4000 2Gb. KIT 2*1GB. DIMM (CHIP MICRON 5B)
TIMINGS = 3-3-3-8

279€ (Ballistix were around 340€)

[ozzimark]

wow, they're available in italy?! not fair, it's still pretty hard to get them in the states. good stuff though. here's a quick preview, though i'm waiting to do a real review till my new cpu shows up (2T explains why i wait, my 146's memory controller has a hard cap at 306mhz, with 4 different sets of ram)



and a validation i took later with an updated verison of cpu-z to show the mfg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=64950


and yes, it's 3d stable from what i can tell

[xgman]

I "broke" this story yesterday. No offical links, just go to the web site. No 1 GB PC4000 listed, ask thier "experts" they will confirm.

yes you did. So props to thinkingbear. When I called about my RMA that came in yesterday, I asked about why, and they told me that they had kept some asside for RMA's and that they were moving on to concentrate on DDR2. I am sure the constant rma'ing contributed to the removal, and even though the rep told me they won't be back, I would not be at all surprised to see them come back at some point because there are an awefull lot of DDR1 customers still out there. the RMA kit I git from them yesterday seemed like a pretty fresh batch in any case. And yes it is all 1 gig sticks or 2 gis sets in the balistix line.

[xgman]

That wouldn't be so bad if the next batch of ICs were fixed of this rediculous problem!
Ram should not just decay in performace at its rated settings! There's obviously something being done wrong in the manufacturing of this junk.

Not all sets are having this decaying problem.

[Lood007]

Not all sets are having this decaying problem.

Agreed, but it is still a big enough problem for them to offer a suitable solution.

[DriveEuro]

Not all sets are having this decaying problem.

True... but its definetely bad enough to cease making them. All four of the sticks I owned died on me. All within 2-3 months from aquiring them.

[Coroner Kyle]

Do we know "officially" why they quit making them or are we just speculating right now?

I heard, "we are trying to focus on DDR2" earlier, but anyone know the truth or is it a shift of focus?

[ozzimark]

Do we know "officially" why they quit making them or are we just speculating right now?

I heard, "we are trying to focus on DDR2" earlier, but anyone know the truth or is it a shift of focus?

depends on how much faith you put in the reps

Hi Mark-

With the market adopting DDR2 as the new standard, we're shifting our focus away from DDR. With higher speed grades and lower power consumption than DDR, I'm sure you'd agree it's definitely a more cost-effective solution. And now with AMD talking about finally making the switch, DDR2 is about to take center stage.

We're going to slowly phase out some of our high-speed DDR products, starting with PC4000. We'll always support the old DDR standard, but with a slimmer range of products.

[s7e9h3n]

depends on how much faith you put in the reps

DDR2 .....how convenient..lol...

[thinkingbear]

I would not be at all surprised to see them come back at some point because there are an awefull lot of DDR1 customers still out here.

Agreed. That is just too much money left out on the table. I bet right now execs at OCZ, G. Skill, Mushkin, and all the rest with 1BG DDR500 modules are doing somersaults and cart wheels in their respective hallway$

[xgman]

depends on how much faith you put in the reps

exactly, but more likely yield issues and returns scared them away from it.