Cedar Mill fun??

[charlie]

I have chance to pick up 3.4gHz Cedar Mill ES CPU... wonder if it will sit, jump, bark and do tricks?

[LarsK]

Well come on, give us some results.....LOL

[charlie]

Well come on, give us some results.....LOL

oh I haven't picked it up, yet... just wondering if it'll be any different than a 660??

[NiCKE^]

You aint asking if it's worth it! You just get it if it's free! :P
So come on and pick it up and let us see some results!

[Mesce]

It will be a LOT better than a 660 in terms of heat/power consumption and the favourite overclocking.

On good air cooling, Im betting you will be able to do 5ghz and when im right send it me

[saaya]

im not sure about the "a LOT better" but its definately better than a 660.
30% less heat i think, plus they oc higher afaik, and they outperform 6xx cpus at the same clock... so id go for it if money isnt really the issue.

[LarsK]

Well, pick it up then. I'd like to se some results

[Mr. Tinker]

You who I'd ask about that? charlie.

[ent]

New technology = FUN

I wonder if 65nm Intels have coldbug?

[Mesce]

im not sure about the "a LOT better" but its definately better than a 660.
30% less heat i think, plus they oc higher afaik, and they outperform 6xx cpus at the same clock... so id go for it if money isnt really the issue.

When I meant a lot better than the 660, I meant purely on what I listed,

The heat is a lot cooler, the power consumption is a lot less and they overclock a lot more.

Stock v's stock it gets beat but when they are both overclocked the cedar mill will be faster in every cooling department and push further on a triple stage cascade

[saaya]

well the heat isnt THAT much lower from what i heard, but yeah, they clock nicely on air. 6xx series gets up to 130W stock, i think cedar mill is back to a reasonable 100W at stock a small jump for 90nm to 65nm comparing it to other process jumps, so thats why i said its not that much cooler.

a64 130nm 2.2ghz was around 60W afaik, 2.2ghz 90nm is how much? 35W?
but then again, cedar mill is a new design, slightly tweaked prescott, but its a new design... so a lower power consumption with higher icp and higher clockspeeds sounds really very nice!

itll still be a hot cpu, but since your probably thinking of dry ice again that should matter to you
8ghz might be doable so get one id say...

[Cooper]

Charlie definetly go for it !!!!
many ppl here would like to see it under DICE/Phase/LN2 since results from VictorWang are on air/water only.

make great OC on it and ppl would stay in line for it
Victor already made pretty good ad on it - Intel should chear those ppl

[Pressure]

New technology = FUN

I wonder if 65nm Intels have coldbug?

Intel does not have an AMD equivalent coldbug as far as I am aware.

I haven't had any problems with any Pentium 4 or Dothan.

[charlie]

ok... anyone know if any 975X mobo's are out?

C

[sin0822]

i htkn itll work on a 955x board, some guy got a 955XE to work on the 955x chipset, so i think try P5WD2, bt wyour looking at around 4.5+ on air, well at least i can do 4.5+ on air on my 561.

[Cooper]

i htkn itll work on a 955x board, some guy got a 955XE to work on the 955x chipset, so i think try P5WD2, bt wyour looking at around 4.5+ on air, well at least i can do 4.5+ on air on my 561.

there`s an article about it on anandtech. So I guess the only available mobo today supporting cedarmill/presler is ASUS P5WD2

[Mesce]

Cedar mills will work on more or less 925 upwards, its just a shrunk 6 series prescott.

If it was the XE then it would have VT and HT which could cause problems but it will work fine in p5wd2.

[NiCKE^]

Now you know charlie what you need The CPU, i955X and LN2 :P Don't forget to get some nice DDR2 rams also

[ent]

Intel does not have an AMD equivalent coldbug as far as I am aware.

I haven't had any problems with any Pentium 4 or Dothan.

I know, but I wonder if there wont be cold issues with 65nm process?

[caater]

I know, but I wonder if there wont be cold issues with 65nm process?

at least not with dryice

[ent]

at least not with dryice

Thats a good news

[charlie]

I HIGHLY doubt there will be ANY cold-bug issues.

C

[saaya]

yeah, cold bug = on die memory controller...

[Supertim0r]

do it, do it...

[Nasgul]

ok... anyone know if any 975X mobo's are out?
C

Hey! What's wrong with a P5WD2-Premium?

In terms of overclocking, I doubt the 975X will make an impact compared to a 955X. Though we all want to see a P5WD2-E Premium in action.

If you don't want to try the Cedar Mill, send it to me, I'll test drive it.

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