How to install the AMD X2 drivers, hotfix, the correct way.

[Celcius]

I know the thread is old, but I've got a relevant question:

I recently bought an AM2 A64X2.
1. Are these fixes still needed for modern games or do only older games need them? (XP Pro SP2) I'm thinking about just installing the dual-core optimizer and calling it a day...
2. If the rig is only an office pc with some movie watching, are any of these fixes needed?

thanks

[Cyber-Mav]

are any of these fixes or dual core optimizer needed when using windows 7?

[demonkevy666]

are any of these fixes or dual core optimizer needed when using windows 7?

no.

[Cyber-Mav]

thanks for the reply, i have been running windows 7 with none of these patches and fixes installed and everything is running great.

[barberic]

Hi Everyone,
Just signed up after being referred here from http://lounge.windowssecrets.com/ind...&#entry810068&

I am running XP-Sp3 dual boot with Windows 7 RC and I can confirm that these tweaks are not required with Windows 7. Microsoft fixed the problem in Vista with a better timer and it’s carried over into Windows 7.

I’ve been wrestling with this speed problem on my XP machine for over 6 months.
I program simple 2D games using Delphi and DirectX with a DirectX timer to control the games. Some time after upgrading to a dual core AMD Athlon 64X2 6000+ I found that games designed to run at 25 frames per second (FPS) ran at 21 FPS, games at 40 FPS ran at 32 FPS.
And only on my machine – no one else had this problem. I always thought it was either a Video Card or DirectX problem and so never found an answer. Through a long process of elimination I eventually narrowed it down to a CPU problem and then found this forum where I thought I had found the fix.
Yes, I say I thought I had found the fix because when I first followed the instructions at the beginning of this post it worked, or so I thought. I was so excited, I had at last got my and my programmer friends games to run at the correct speed again.
My joy was short lived. When I closed this page the speed problem returned.

This open web page workaround is the same ‘fix’ as some other workarounds I’ve learned that make the games run at their designed speed..
1. Run dxDiag from the command line and leave it running.
2. Have Windows Media Player running.
3. Leave a web page open with a You Tube video on it.
4. Leave a web page open with a Flash advert on it.
5. Have any P2P client open.
6. Run a program called TimerResolution.exe from http://www.hotlib.com/27554/dl/TimerResolution.zip This is a handy little utility that tells you your default timer resolution and lets you reset it to the maximum, usually around 1. On my machine the default timer resolution is 15.625 and this resets it to 0.977 milliseconds.
7. Lastly as I said above, leave this web page open.
After working through the instructions I went straight to my latest game. The problem was fixed. I then restarted my computer. The problem was back. Return to this page, problem fixed again.

All these workarounds temporarily fix the problem. What they do is reset the timer resolution to 1, in my case to 0.997 and then revert to the default resolution when they close.

I have worked through the ‘How to install the AMD X2 drivers, hotfix, the correct way’ several times but without success.

My machine is nearly 2 years old. The specs are
CPU - Athlon 64X2 6000+ AM2 Dual Core
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3 rev1
Video Card - Asus EN7200GS 256M PCIE
Windows XP SP3 dual boot with Windows 7 RC

I updated the CPU drivers with this - AMD Processor Driver Version 1.3.2.0053 for Windows XP. The link to the Microsoft Hotfix is broken but when I downloaded it from Windows Update it told me I didn’t need it because I have XP-SP3. I presumed then that I didn’t need to do the ‘Throttle’ Registry fix. I did it anyway when I found the fix wasn’t working but that did nothing.
I’ve also tried turning C&Q off and back on in the BIOS.

Am I doing something wrong or does it not always work or is my timer problem something different.

I would love to fix this annoying problem. Please can anyone help.

[FireDragon]

Go to AMD.com and download the duel core optimizer (only for windows XP) it is supposed to fix this issue with the time stamps and allow them to run at what they r supposed to

there is also a sticky post in best of AMD i think it is that has a how 2 about installing it, that should fix your problems (u might b doing something wrong re-read it and or try the AMD driver, also maybe try the windows driver and c if that helps w.e u do DON'T use them both together make sure one is uninstalled b4 u try the other)

Dragon

edit- guess if none of that works it may b time to re-install your OS and start all over, and applying the AMD or Microsoft hot fix right off, like b4 your other drivers and so on and restarting; or upgrade to Win7 as they have all time stamp issues taking care of and it doesn't require any kind of patching

[barberic]

a sticky post in best of AMD

Ahmmm I think we are in that topic now. What you suggest is the first post in this thread.

that should fix your problems (u might b doing something wrong re-read it and or try the AMD driver,...

Could you please read my post again. You will see I have already been through that several times.

I have also tried a clean install of XP-SP3 on a separate drive with nothing but the graphic drivers installed and the duel core optimizer. That didn't fix it.

Thanks for your interest in my problem.

[Nikolasz]

I just replace, my dads s939's single core cpu 3500+ to 3800+x2 no updates, simply windows ask to restart pc!
Task maneger says 2 cpus and windows working with two at time.

He got all sp2/sp3 updates!
Plz install microsoft updates via net and you will be all fine.
Now relax guys

It was stable that way, but not enugh..

I try with amd dual core optimiser and was not stable enugh, with crappy performance as 1 cored cpu.
Best way and moust stable xp pc was to dissable one of two cores.

Why intel didnt make pacth for intel cpu to reprogram rom inside processors?

[TVFREAKAZOID]

What do i need to do regarding the hot fix if and when I upgrade to windows7?

[barberic]

What do i need to do regarding the hot fix if and when I upgrade to windows7?

Short answer - NOTHING.

[TVFREAKAZOID]

Good!

Short answer - NOTHING.

[Nikolasz]

Short answer - NOTHING.

Windows 7 fix all problems related to x2 3800+ cpu ?


If so i will install windows 7

[barberic]

I only had Win 7 RC but it looks to me like the problem is fixed.

[Nikolasz]

Today i made install win7 on my dads comp.
It seems wery stable(for now). Cpu is supported in device maneger.
No crashes in 1 hour of hawy works such as updates and instalations.
Tomorow ill put 64 bit antivitus, spybot s and d, directx and all what he need it

I will let you know if works ok or donot, i hope win7 will swallow x2 cpu

[Nikolasz]

Win 7 ultimate x64 works perfectly on athlon x2 3800+ !!

Edit

win7 never crash on athlon 3800+ x2 so far all great and fine