How to install the AMD X2 drivers, hotfix, the correct way.

[Pedrovsk]

Hey everyone,

Just noticed the release date of the AMD Dual-Core Optimizer is November 2006. Just checked that I downloaded the one I'm using now in August 2006. This November release is smaller than the former.

Should I install it over or uninstall the older one first??

Also - Do I need to follow all of these steps again? I have MS HOTFIX and latest AMD CPU drivers already installed in order. If I change AMD Dual-Core Optimizer I must remove all of them?

Thank you!

From looking at the MS KB articles is seems that KB896256 contains older versions of all the files that are in KB924441. I would have thought it was best to switch (2) & (3)?

KB896256
Date Time Version Size File name
--------------------------------------------------------------
28-Sep-2005 23:35 5.1.2600.2765 134,272 Halmacpi.dll
29-Sep-2005 00:02 5.1.2600.2765 2,136,064 Ntkrnlmp.exe
28-Sep-2005 23:35 5.1.2600.2765 2,057,344 Ntkrnlpa.exe
28-Sep-2005 23:35 5.1.2600.2765 2,015,744 Ntkrpamp.exe
29-Sep-2005 00:04 5.1.2600.2765 2,180,096 Ntoskrnl.exe
28-Sep-2005 23:32 5.1.2600.2765 30,720 Arpidfix.exe

KB924441
File name File version File size Date Time Platform
Ntkrnlmp.exe 5.1.2600.3014 2,137,600 12-Oct-2006 12:26
Ntkrnlpa.exe 5.1.2600.3014 2,059,136 12-Oct-2006 11:45
Ntkrpamp.exe 5.1.2600.3014 2,017,280 12-Oct-2006 11:45
Ntoskrnl.exe 5.1.2600.3014 2,181,888 12-Oct-2006 12:28

So it might be in your case that it works best because you have not in fact applied KB924441?
I shall experiment myself when I have time but anybody else got any feedback on these hotfixes?

I think that's because the details on the KB896256 files are from revision 3.2 (last updated on september) so it doesn't reflect changes made on v4 (last released on December).

[800ster]

Good point. MS seem to have updated the files to V4 but not the KB article that states the file revisions.

[800ster]

Just had another quick look at this. I don't know if the fixes make any config changes but in respect of files it looks like KB924441 is redundant on my system. Both fixes only update the same 2 files (and no others) on my A64X2 PC - ntkrnlpa.exe & ntoskrnl.exe.
KB924441 takes them to v3016 (from v2622) and then KB896256 overwrites them again to v3023.
As the Dual-core Optimizer does not appear to touch these files I would guess that providing KB924441 is installed prior to KB896256 (as RPGWiZaRD suggested) then any order is OK.
Now to test if these fixes make any difference anyway!

[Pedrovsk]

I've read somewhere that the new AMD Dual Core Optimizer doesn't add the /usepmtimer at boot.ini after you install it. I've never removed the /usepmtimer tag since I added it manually even before AMD Dual Core Optimizer was released... anyone knows if I should still leave the tag there or not?

[GAR]

I've read somewhere that the new AMD Dual Core Optimizer doesn't add the /usepmtimer at boot.ini after you install it. I've never removed the /usepmtimer tag since I added it manually even before AMD Dual Core Optimizer was released... anyone knows if I should still leave the tag there or not?

Hey i forgot to mention in the PM to you, /usepmtimer is added by the MS HOTFIX, so if you install the hotfix no need to add it, but if you are not going to install the hotfix then yes you should add it.

[Pavlos]

hi guys,

first of all, have a nice 2007 all of u.

I am running a Laptop with Mobile CoreDuo T2400 ( Yonah ) , and i am waiting a new opteron 170 dual core for my desktop, to upgrade the 754 socket, with xp pro sp2.

I understood that the opteron has a need for that upgrade ( registry,hotfix) but wat about the CoreDuo..?

And sorry for asking this in this topic, but i was looking for a dual core cheap upgrade for my current system . I wasn't able to find the toledo 4400+ so i gοt the 175 Opteron. I thought that it will help in cad programs and 3D enviroment ( not games ) much than the mobile athlon did.

Tell me i didn't spent my money for nothing.

Thanks guys and

Happy new year to all of u

[Littleluk]

Should I install these fixes on a brand new installation of win server 03 r2 x64?

[ShaTR]

Hey guys, just a quick question. (looked thru the thread, but can't seem to find an answer)

Just got an Optee 165, and i want to use cool'n'quiet (powerNOW) to throttle down the CPU when idle, but i can't seem to get it to work. applied the updates and whatnot as per post 1, but doesn't seem to want to take.

had a venice 3200 before this one, and had CnQ working perfectly. any idea how to get this darn CPU to throttle down, or is it just not possible with optee's????

Thanks in advance

[mohit]

umm i read this thread and i am jst confused now ....what do i do if i am building a new rig with a 3800x2 am2 + asrock mobo ?

ill be doing a fresh install of xp sp2 ...so can i just first install the drivers for amd x2 series (downloaded from amd.com) and then install the dual core optimizer next ?

i dont want CnQ enabled as ill be overclocking ...somebody plz guide me as to what exactly has to be done ?

thanks in advance.

[Sonic9]

To cancel CnQ, simply disable it in BIOS.
But for drivers, hotfixes and dual core optimizer it's recommended for any dual core amd cpu, oc'd or not ...

[Pavlos]

Guys,
what about the core duo ? Does this cpu needs the hotfixes and drivers ?

[csimon]

Guys,
what about the core duo ? Does this cpu needs the hotfixes and drivers ?

[GAR]

Guys,
what about the core duo ? Does this cpu needs the hotfixes and drivers ?

Im not gonna be mean bro dont worry, the intel cpu's do not need any hotfixes or drivers to operate, for some reason amd cpu's perform a tiny bit better with drivers and this hotfix.

[adidassler]

Hi!

Im having problem with my F.E.A.R, which is ok wayback im using a venice 3000+ s939, and just upgraded to x2 4200 stock, why i cant run the game?

i already installed correctly the game, also the optimizer, direct x 9,
im using

x2 4200
dfi expert
2x512 gbfx gskill
forsa 8800gtx


Thanks!

[dasnaksta]

Is there somewhere I can downlaod this HotFix in French? it won't support the english version :p
Thanks

[GAR]

Is there somewhere I can downlaod this HotFix in French? it won't support the english version :p
Thanks

For different languages, i would contact MS, if its available they will email it to you..... good luck.

[XiN]

Is there somewhere I can downlaod this HotFix in French? it won't support the english version :p
Thanks

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...8-34fb8a0fce3b

[Hawk2]

I registered just to let everyone know my experiences. I put together my first AMD X2 computer. I used all new parts installing XP pro on a new HD. Following Gar's outline precisely I have run into absolutely no problems yet. I am running "cool and quiet" (can't tell what it really does though). I know Morrowind, Doom 3, and Fear (all with latest patches) run perfectly. I'm still loading various games and will post if I ever run into problems.

I just wanted everyone to know my experiences so maybe it will help trouble shoot a problem for someone else. And thank you Gar for posting your findings. My X2 system works great!!

[ShaTR]

hey guys,

still can't figure out how to solve my CnQ (PowerNow!) problem with my Opteron 165. i just can't get it to work.


Minimal power management

Enabled in bios

everything set to stock and auto with regards to vcore and HT

AMD Driver installed

can anybody help me pleeeeeeeese

oh, board is an NF4 ultra-d btw.

[Titus]

do these fixes apply to Vista as well?...or is there no longer a need for the MS hotfix, etc?

[GAR]

do these fixes apply to Vista as well?...or is there no longer a need for the MS hotfix, etc?

Vista does not need this hotfix.

[ablatt]

I see the AMD Dual Core Optimizer is available for the X2 but not listed under the Opteron download section.

Should I use the one for the X2 or assume it's not available/needed for the Opteron?

Anybody tried it?

[nike]

im usin it, and i guess it works.. at least do my frames stay stable

[csimon]

I use it too ...dunno if it works but it does install and uninstall.

[Kimball]

How come I as a opteronuser cant see the dualcoreoptimizer in the systray? The process is all goin, everythin installed correctly, but I just cant "open" it? Occurs to everyone usin Opteron I assume? :/