So TEC isnt for day to day?

[mdzcpa]

Whats the diff between a poor thermal conductor and an insulator?

Nothing. Thermal conductivity is relative. You need to rely on the effectiveness of a material to insulate or conduct for its intended use to classify it.

[Tibu]

http://www.over-clock.com/ivb/index.php?showtopic=1085 << Pump failure on a TEC System - 240v pump so no "rpm monitoring thru bios" safety features that folks are getting used to these days.

If you're gonna use TECs my advice:

12v pump running off PC.
Swiftech Rev2 relay to connect TEC PSU to PC PSU for simultaneous on/off
mCubed T-Balancer set up so that...
if flow = 0lpm switch off
if liquid temp = 40+ switch off
if fan rpm = <1000rpm switch off
if cpu temp = 40+ switch off

THEN you have a relatively safe TEC setup... just like mine

What exactly is this mCubed t-balancer you speak off?

[Marci]

www.mcubed.de

[Gimmpy224]

yea, if i do make a TEC setup, im going to take every safety precaution I can.

no reason to have my house reduced to ashes because I was to lazy to spend a little money that could have prevented it.

[Revivalist]

This is a very interesting topic about turning off the pelt. . .

I just installed a 320W pelt on my CPU and I discovered that I can turn off the pelt without any problems as long as I'm running stock or underclocking. In fact, I found this to be very helpful for daily use because I don't need to overclock while using the internet, Word, etc. . .

Here are some detailed tests that I ran. . . Prime95 ("In-place large FFTs") was used for at least 15 min. to put a load on the CPU. The room was 25C and fans were run at maximum speed. The results were as follows:

With the TEC on, stock speed & voltage (2.2GHz, 1.50 Vcore)
(Idle: -6C / Load: 9C)

With the TEC on, underclocked & undervolted (1.06GHz, 1.07 Vcore)
(Idle: -10C / Load: -9C)

With the TEC on, overclocked & overvolted (2.6GHz, 1.70 Vcore)
(Idle: -2C / Load: 18C)

----------------

With the TEC off, stock speed & voltage (2.2GHz, 1.50 Vcore)
(Idle: 34C / Load: 52C)

With the TEC off, underclocked (1.06GHz, 1.07V Vcore)
(Idle: 29C / Load: 32C)

With the TEC on, overclocked & overvolted (2.6GHz, 1.70 Vcore)
(Idle: 41C / Load: Temps too high to test)

[OpTiX]

mdzcpa dude how did that happen it looks so bad imprint of the chip on the water block....lol

[mdzcpa]

mdzcpa dude how did that happen it looks so bad imprint of the chip on the water block

Didn't have the TEC PSU relayed. Stupid move.

You should ALWAYS have your TEC PSU relayed. If the system shuts down for any reason, its important the TEC does too. Most folks run thier pumps and rad fans off thier ATX system PSU, so if the system goes down, coooling stops. That's a bad thing when you have a powered TEC.

Once you've relayed to your ATX PSU, you control other problems such as pump failure through your BIOS. Set a CPU max shutdown temp in the BIOS and you solve the issues. Anything that makes the temp rise too high simply kills the power to the TEC.

[Kunaak]

about 3-4 years ago, when I first heard about pelts, I thought they sounded great.
I was a total noob back then, and got alot of bad advice.
I ended up making this weird dual pump, trippe rad, thing, cause I wanted all the cooling I could get, and wanted 2 pumps incase one failed, and just for the hell of it, I also had a idea, that if I never turned the PC off... I would never have to worry about accidentally not turning it on.

for all that, all I was cooling was a 9700 pro, and my chipset on my 8RDA.
the CPU was prometeia cooled.
I felt like I was running the fastest computer on earth haha... which for the time, it kinda was one of the fastest around...

but one day, I came home, and found that my PSU had just burnt up. it was on everyday, all day, for a good 6 months... came home, smelled alittle weird smell that I really can't describe... it's not like when you fry a processor or anything, definatly different...

for all my idiotic cautionary stuff, the one thing I could not have solved, is what if the power went off...
well, the PSU went off...
the prometiea shut the PC off.
the fans that where connected to the radiator... through the PSU, that power the Prometia... also went off...
the pump never went off... which may have delayed the burning up process... but sure enough, my 9700 pro was history. the motherboard and CPU strangely were just fine.

sadly, that was the second 9700 pro, that I killed from a Pelt.
since then, I really stopped trying to use them, except in rare cases when I need extra cooling on something other then a CPU, and have few other options for a benchmark.

[Gimmpy224]

was the smell electricity?

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

electricity has no odor; ozone (tends to be produced by high voltage arcs, etc) has a delicious odor that kills brain cells
if it wasn't the magical smoke being let out of various ICs or something it was probably ozone

[despat]

Anyone know where I can find an mCubed T-Balancer to ship to canada?? I think the best one is the SL4 version for TEC project?? googled and all i find is austrailia and germany

http://www.over-clock.com/ivb/index.php?showtopic=1085 << Pump failure on a TEC System - 240v pump so no "rpm monitoring thru bios" safety features that folks are getting used to these days.

If you're gonna use TECs my advice:

12v pump running off PC.
Swiftech Rev2 relay to connect TEC PSU to PC PSU for simultaneous on/off
mCubed T-Balancer set up so that...
if flow = 0lpm switch off
if liquid temp = 40+ switch off
if fan rpm = <1000rpm switch off
if cpu temp = 40+ switch off

THEN you have a relatively safe TEC setup... just like mine

[DeNs]

The thread's two years old - you might've been better to make a new thread about it

Seems there's a few retailers in canada for mCubed stuff. See the following link.

http://www.mcubed-tech.com/english/haendler.htm

---dens

[hecktic]

The thread's two years old - you might've been better to make a new thread about it

Seems there's a few retailers in canada for mCubed stuff. See the following link.

http://www.mcubed-tech.com/english/haendler.htm

---dens

thats not the same mCubed is it?

[Marci]

Yes.

[despat]

All those links don't have anything about the mCubed sales. This is getting really frustrating. Don't they make these anymore??

[Larry]

Here is a link for the uk maybe they will ship to you

http://www.quietpc.com/gb-en-gbp/products/fanless

[Marci]

There are no official US / Canada Resellers that I know of... order direct from mCubed here: http://www.mcubed-store.com/catalog/...roducts_id=169

(Once they're back in stock)

[lowfat]

There are no official US / Canada Resellers that I know of... order direct from mCubed here: http://www.mcubed-store.com/catalog/...roducts_id=169

(Once they're back in stock)

Performance PCs (in USA) sells them under Alphacool. Although I have found buying them directly from mCubed to be cheaper.

[lowfat]

Alhough this thread is very old, just read through the whole thing and it is very imformative

[hecktic]

67 EUR ... expensive?

[littleowl]

67 EUR ... expensive?

67 Euros = 92.3327 U.S. dollars

[d44ve]

I use mine everyday.... not 24\7 but I would say around 4-5 hours a day without an issue

[Stigma]

Given that you have adequate insulation and ample power supply, there is no problem with running a TEC cooling unit 24/7. A TEC dosn't normally wear out if it is properly mounted.

I ran a TEC-cooled rig for about 2 years in daily use witohut any problems whatsoever. I have later on "graduated" to phasecooling since I have come to realize that TECs are just too inefficient to make a good cooling system from.

-Stigma

[naPS]

No.

You couldn't be more wrong.