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    My solid container is finally here...cool cnc mpeg

    After many delays, my solid design container has finally arrived!! This is my dream container that I have always wanted. I made absolutely no compromises in making it and it was built with only performance in mind(not to take away from any of the other containers I have used which were all great in their own right). There was flame hardened custom tooling that needed to be made, and re-made, before it could be completed. It may prove difficult to mass produce this particular unit considering the costs that were involved. Along with the custom tooling, the purest copper was used to ensure optimal thermal transfer :/. Some details which are at the heart of the design, are still under NDA and I can't show them just yet. I can say it's a heavy mofo . I took some risks, and I hope they pay off. I am going to run it through the ringer with ln2 mostly, and then some DI on both my dothan and FX setups this week coming up, so results coming soon.
    I was very lucky to be present and oversee almost the whole production process, and I got a ton of pictures and a killer avi of it being cut on a $250,000 cnc lathe. I will get the vid loaded up some time later tonight and insert it into this post...it's pretty cool.
    Here are some misc pics in the meantime:

    Production pics:



    Solid block of copper it was cut from:


    Finished product:


    Here it is next to my mousepot for scale(of course my mousepot was as shiny as my new container when I first got it, but this is how they look after you use the hell out of them :


    short clip of top of the bore getting cut on the cnc lathe:
    <a href="http://www.clipshack.com/ClipView.aspx?id=dZzZ2YYYRgnO3qn1Mgmfcw**">
    <img src="http://www.clipshack.com/ClipLinkImage.aspx?id=dZzZ2YYYRgnO3qn1Mgmfcw**" border="0">
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    a work of art.
    8 inches tall? sounds short, but what the hell do I know, I've never played with DI/LN2

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    eyecandy perhaps
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    Very cool mate! Lookin foraward to your results. Also what the inside piece is all about. BTW I am now lidless also.


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    Will it be use with that arc?? Looks really good. Such a good idea that your getting it pattented? Cant wait.
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    Looks sick kingpin! Especially the lathe pics
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
    hehe, mine where 9in and to tell ya the truth I think a few inches where not ever needed on my unit

    those 15in tall units are all show, hehe
    Thanx for the words bro, the mousepot was a blast and is a tough act to follow, but I am going to try like hell. It will be blood from stone from this point on, but there is still a little more to be had there...especially with ln2.
    I always just need more. Prolly why japanese have so many diff revisions.....

    And yah J knows how I feel about the tall ass ones, not that there isn't anything wrong with that sort of thing
    The mass up top does nothing really IMO. Maybe for DI where there is contstant contact the wole way up...but I believe ln2 goes by a whole different set of rules and you have to decide what the purpose of the container is and design it accordingly. "Put it where you need it " might apply better there.

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    Ya baby, big CU in da house

    Lookin good KP, hope it does what you design is intended. Say how much does Mousepot weigh in at? I'm guessing around 3.8lbs or so. Looks like we'll be seeing some big numbers over the weekend for sure.

    Good luck with it and make sure to do lots of pics & results

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    Was all you changed between yours and the mousepot more pure copper and a thicker walled base?

    Or is there something inside special too?
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    mmm midgets

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    Darnit so the midget is what I am lacking all along lmao.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
    He has fitted a miget inside that controls the flow of LN2 with a small bucket which he splashes around on the inside walls as needed, lol

    Im sure he did someting inside on that CNC Lathe. Thats a nice mahcine would be a pity if it was just plain internal
    hehe..:banana::banana::banana::banana:star midgets. That machine was crazy lol...I had never seen anything like that thing. The vertical shaft mill that they made my hold down on was pretty sick too. Fully automated and made the complete holdown from a solid block to finish from all angles in less than 10 minutes as I watched behind the glass.
    The inside of the pot is nothing crazy really and pretty simplistic, just not anything I have yet to see on other solid one piece cylindrical containers yet, japs included. I think it is going to kill with the ln2 on full throttle. Not talking this -75c bs with these noobed up fx's, I'm talkin the real f'in deal maximum -190c full overclocks. If it rocks because of the design, I think it's patentable as it will be unique in that respect. If it sucks, then I will just try a different approach. No biggy. The thrill is in the hunt too. To me even a 50mhz gain is striking gold at that level of benching. I'd just rather not show the base before my testing phase is over. I dont want to see someone else profit from my design if it's a good one,thats all. The honor system doesn't cut it anymore.

    I will upload the mpeg in abit.

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    That looks kickass KP!
    /me waiting for the video /me hopes it wont be as large as 50meg +)

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    If you wanted to make a cap that would give a half ass seal for this device you could use a carbon fiber o-ring. I think it expands with cold. I know they use titanium tips for carbon rods on CMM's because the expansion contraction between thoughs two materials. How is everyone sure about what material has the best thermal conductivity? Im not sure either. I've only been going on what gives the best thermal shock resistence. I cant see in the ID, did he flat bottom the work piece? What's the wall thickness between proc and LN2? Very sweet man. Really looks good. Looks to be an older Mazak 860 or 660 slant bed machine he did it on.I used to run the LL7's. you can see he used an Allied 135 degree TiN coated spade. with a littl custom grind. very nice man.
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    If "heart" was made on lathe there arent much options what kind of constructions there might be. I would put my guess to chilly type of central nod.. perhaps some grooves on pipe too. If a drill was used then there might be something unique inside.

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    nice tube kingpin. Now i want to see the inside and how have you done the base?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equinox
    If you wanted to make a cap that would give a half ass seal for this device you could use a carbon fiber o-ring. I think it expands with cold. I know they use titanium tips for carbon rods on CMM's because the expansion contraction between thoughs two materials. How is everyone sure about what material has the best thermal conductivity? Im not sure either. I've only been going on what gives the best thermal shock resistence. I cant see in the ID, did he flat bottom the work piece? What's the wall thickness between proc and LN2? Very sweet man. Really looks good. Looks to be an older Mazak 860 or 660 slant bed machine he did it on.I used to run the LL7's. you can see he used an Allied 135 degree TiN coated spade. with a littl custom grind. very nice man.
    You know your stuff man. It was mazak 860 and for the copper, I just went with what was recomended by my machinist friend for my application. There were three or four different grades to choose from. The custom tooling that he made to make my base is not visible in my pics becasue it would give away what is down there. I will get that mpeg loaded this morning, I passed out last night when I came home from partying :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
    You know your stuff man. It was mazak 860 and for the copper, I just went with what was recomended by my machinist friend for my application. There were three or four different grades to choose from. The custom tooling that he made to make my base is not visible in my pics becasue it would give away what is down there. I will get that mpeg loaded this morning, I passed out last night when I came home from partying :/

    I know that feeling too well

    Nice container

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMouse
    V> Isn't It a nice feeling to use something you made and at that use something that breaks WR's with

    I got a rush of that and even more so when others used my unit and done the same thing
    It will be cool to use a container that I made for sure, especially if it works like I want it too and I can break some of my own records with it. It will justify the time, effort, frustration, and cost that I put into it.

    I added the clip to the top of the thread btw..I had to cut it down alot from 35mb avi file that it was originally, but it still shows the boring part of the process pretty good. Eventually I will put the the high quality version on my site.
    Now if my detroit lions win today and I can at least take back my #2 spot SLI later on or maybe even #1, today will be a great day

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    ok.. im hoping for succes kingpin!
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    Well, two personal records down already lol.....if it wasnt for this one POS card, I would have #1 SLI back. I knew this slower card was going to hold me back one day. It can still be done with cpu power though I think.
    Lions were getting killed so I gave up on them long ago hehe.

    Going to try some dothan pi action next. Maybe I will finally get my 18sec with a 770m.

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    Any screenies?
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    Sweet and sexy. I hope my alumi (if im not to late) will be this sweet.


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    Well...I posted these over at ocXtreme, but here ya go....




    Still not my best settings by far on the ram, so there is more. I just need this damn FX to cooperate with me a little more. I need to open it up a little with the dothan now. I had 30 litres of ln2 sitting here for two + weeks and it was down to about ten when I went out to the garage to get it earlier, so I barely have any left. Maybe enough for some pentium M pi runs with a pci card in.
    400 and some odd points from 50k now fellas....I'm feelin it now.
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