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    Computer clustering (duel mainboard)

    does any body know how to do computer clustering?? (connecting 2 computers (mainboards) together to make a duel cpu pc)

    pc 1

    3000+ @ 2.3ghz (70 x 8.5)
    duel channel 1.5 gb of hyniz ram running @ 440mhz (2x 512 ans 2 x 256)
    SATA 2x 200gb hdd (400gb )
    asus a8v delux rev2
    x800pro @ 550 / 520
    sound blaster live 5.1
    500w psu
    big water (water cooler)

    pc 2

    p4 2.8 ghz @ 3.6ghz
    asus p4p800 delux
    1g duel channel ram @ stock speed (400mhz)
    6600GT 128mb
    40gb
    350w PSU
    wifi-g (54mb/s)
    big water (water cooler)


    pc 3 (server)

    (used as a HDD server)
    semperon 2400 @ 2ghz
    fx5600 (leadtek a310)
    768mb ram ddr 400
    120gb hdd + 5gb hdd ...LOL
    350w psu

    pc 4

    1.6ghz p4 @ 2ghz
    msi mainboard
    512mb mem ddr400
    r9200se 300/200 (+ non stock fan)
    40gb hdd
    350w psu
    wifi -g

    pc 5

    2.4 ghz celeron @ 2.7ghz
    128mb r9200 se 300core /200mem (+ non stock fan)
    256mb of SD ram @ 133mhz
    300w PSU
    asus p4s533-mx
    5gb hdd.. lOL (it runs off the server)

    pc 6 (not complete)

    2x 500mhz celeron (duel cpu)
    ABIT pb6 (duel cpu)
    5gb HDD ...lol (dont need a big hdd because all the games run off the server)
    192mb of SD ram
    32mb TNT2 m64 pro
    no psu

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    computer clustering with standard PC hardware is not practical or cost effective, it's cheaper to run multi CPU boards and manage that. There are ways, the biggest user of standard PC clusters is Google, they use any old crap computer and cluster many thousands of them together.

    Clustering on standard PC's requires Windows Enterprise server editions or Linux Enterprise editions and optical networking. Unfortunately the limited PCI bus speed of standard consumer PC's makes the task have a pretty poor pay off. Server hardware with high speed bus technology is better at it for sure, but still not great.

    If you want to cluster for distributed computing projects, then that is already a type of cluster and by adding your own you are only adding a layer of complexity to a system that already distributes workload very well.

    Hope that helps, sorry if I sound discouraging.
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    thanx!!!

    and does any one know if the ABIT BP6 maiboard will work with a duel P3 cpu and not only a celeron??

    because celerons are crappy and i want to buy 2 intel p3 cpus (maby 600mhz x2). cuz celerons are F***ed up !

    pc 1

    3000+ @ 2.3ghz (70 x 8.5)
    duel channel 1.5 gb of hyniz ram running @ 440mhz (2x 512 ans 2 x 256)
    SATA 2x 200gb hdd (400gb )
    asus a8v delux rev2
    x800pro @ 550 / 520
    sound blaster live 5.1
    500w psu
    big water (water cooler)

    pc 2

    p4 2.8 ghz @ 3.6ghz
    asus p4p800 delux
    1g duel channel ram @ stock speed (400mhz)
    6600GT 128mb
    40gb
    350w PSU
    wifi-g (54mb/s)
    big water (water cooler)


    pc 3 (server)

    (used as a HDD server)
    semperon 2400 @ 2ghz
    fx5600 (leadtek a310)
    768mb ram ddr 400
    120gb hdd + 5gb hdd ...LOL
    350w psu

    pc 4

    1.6ghz p4 @ 2ghz
    msi mainboard
    512mb mem ddr400
    r9200se 300/200 (+ non stock fan)
    40gb hdd
    350w psu
    wifi -g

    pc 5

    2.4 ghz celeron @ 2.7ghz
    128mb r9200 se 300core /200mem (+ non stock fan)
    256mb of SD ram @ 133mhz
    300w PSU
    asus p4s533-mx
    5gb hdd.. lOL (it runs off the server)

    pc 6 (not complete)

    2x 500mhz celeron (duel cpu)
    ABIT pb6 (duel cpu)
    5gb HDD ...lol (dont need a big hdd because all the games run off the server)
    192mb of SD ram
    32mb TNT2 m64 pro
    no psu

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    Your sig is ridiculously long, please check out the forum rules on this.
    The BP6 will run dual P3's, there's a lot of info in the Google searches and some of the old threads from places like 2cpu.com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey
    The BP6 will run dual P3's, there's a lot of info in the Google searches and some of the old threads from places like 2cpu.com.

    thank you !!! :>

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    That's not his sig...

    Notice how you don't see this seperating his post vs his sig

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    can any one tell me what software i need to perform a computer beuwolf cluster under windows xp pro?

    .thanx

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    Why do you need to run a cluster? Just for sh*ts and giggles or for a real purpose? I truthfully don't think that it is worth the hassle. Also, doing it on a 100mpbs connection probably will degrade the perfomance.
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    What exactly are you trying to accomplish by building a cluster? Do you have any cluster enabled applications, or plan on writing any? You could try to run a mosix cluster which is an attempt at having a cluster of machines operate like a single, multi-cpu machine. Their abstraction layer is still far, far away from being able to "fork it and forget it", the motto they're trying use, but its a nice start. Forget about F@H or d2ol or apps that have closed source components running on this, you'll need to have some dev experience and access to the code to make anything really cluster aware.

    I'd love for someone to modify a avi/dvd ripper to be cluster-aware. Split up the file and distribute, encode, reassemble. No doubt gigabit links will be required for the cluster network to be truly efficient, but gige equipment is pretty accessible pricewise now.

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    well 100mb is ample!!!! did you know you can run a fast cluster on 54mb(WIFI)!!!! u see the more computers you have the more bandwidth you nees. but you see im only clustering 2-3 computers which will eaven run with a 10m/b lan. however i have a 1000mb/s lan in both the pc's i want to run.

    what am i stying to acomplish??

    im trying to buid a cluster(obviously) that will compule my HL2 maps and css maps and will also encode and comvert at high speed o and one more thing... im using it as a server for my lan parties(100ppl) and an FTP server. (this is why im making a cluster. and its cheap) iv got all the parts.

    parts:

    pc1
    Abtt bp6
    2x 500mhz cpu
    192mb ram
    TNT2 m64 pro
    only a 3gb HDD just to run linux on
    10/100/1000 network and 10/100

    pc2

    p4 2.4ghz @ 2.7ghz
    asus p4s500-mx
    256mb ram
    250gb HDD
    r9200 se
    10/100/1000 and 10/100

    pc 3

    P2 @ 200mhz
    64mb ram
    10/100/1000 and 10mb/s

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    Those computers are soo not worth the effort.

    Build yourself a dual Xeon rig for $500ish

    I built both of my dual Xeons in my rig for $500. Not including the watercooling on the one.
    Currently building my i7 920 rig
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    Quote Originally Posted by DriveEuro
    Those computers are soo not worth the effort.

    Build yourself a dual Xeon rig for $500ish

    I built both of my dual Xeons in my rig for $500. Not including the watercooling on the one.
    well... its a challenge any way. Xeons are CRAP!!They have one of the worst performance! and besides im living in Australia. in Australia Xeons are expensive. they like us$150 more than in the us. id rather get an AMD operation. AMD operations are much faster, however much more expensive. and besides i dun wanna spend any more money on my server. i aleady have all the parts. id rather spend money on an AMD x2 4400+, ATI corsfire, 2x x900XT(when comes out) 2gb of Kingston DDR RAM.

    well thank any way for showing me how to make a cluster

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    First off after reading your 45 or so posts, your maturetly level is at there. Also dont shoto down suggestions with....
    Xeons are CRAP!!
    There better than what you have. And are far from crap.

    Grow up a little before you post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x800pro6
    Xeons are CRAP!!
    Wow, guess you don't know that they perform about on par with P4s...

    An OPTERON (not operation) rig will cost you a bit more than a Xeon rig. The Xeon rig can overclock much more than the Opteron rig also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DriveEuro
    Wow, guess you don't know that they perform about on par with P4s...

    An OPTERON (not operation) rig will cost you a bit more than a Xeon rig. The Xeon rig can overclock much more than the Opteron rig also.

    well P4's arnt my favoriate, that is y in getting an AMD duel core. p4's have a huge bottle neck (800fsb). AMD HTT speed runs at 1000mhz (2000mts).and p4's are only half duplex as AMD's are full duplex. this makes a huge performance increase.

    im personaly not for xeon cpu's, they are too expensive! i dun know how u built a duel xeon for US$500.
    well look at some xeon vs OPTERON benchmarks.

    http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...pteron&page=13
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    Xeon's are not that expensive on ebay, you can get a cheapo set and overclock them way high, even on stock coolers, they are far from crap...
    Clusters are Basicly just a massive Race between countrys and Sci labs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniMan
    Xeon's are not that expensive on ebay, you can get a cheapo set and overclock them way high, even on stock coolers, they are far from crap...
    Clusters are Basicly just a massive Race between countrys and Sci labs...

    thanx. well if you say that they good for overclocking ill take ur word for it, im just not happy with 533FSB on the cheap xeons though. yes i know xeons are better than the specs that i want to cluster, however i dun realy have money to throw around.



    but wat do u mean by a massive rase between countries??


    well thanx any way.

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    Nvm on that buy the 133 lv's can do 200 fsb normalyl.

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