Overclocking Bible: Post your comments/questions here!

[MrSeanKon]

No matter mate!
You can use this name!
I don't have any problems!
Our site there is different OK only program's name is O/c Bible not site..
And of course we can co-operate in the future.

[TMM]

No offense, but this looks like a complete waste of time (the program, the guides look good tho). Overclocking is 99% luck. The only way to know what your CPU will overclock to is to just overclock it...

[MrSeanKon]

It is not waste time.
An American proverb says "Never waste time"....
This program is based on steps and you must follow them otherwise is not useful.
The only thing is patience and if you read my "CPU burn-in guide" I spent about 2 hours and I filled my first map with many measurements so where is waste time?
If someone thinks that a multimeter or MSF is something special then he/she must delete this program and never download it again.
OK I know that all CPUs are not same but if you see n becoming smaller and so on what you will expect?
On the other hand this package includes many other programs useful for novices e.g. PSU Estimator, Unit converter, O/C analyzer (OK don't use my estimators but after input your MSFs) etc...

[Skinny13]

question
where to put the probes in order to multimeter the abit nf7?

[TMM]

What im saying is... if your main mission is to save time, run it on the highest volts you are happy with running, put your ram on a divider, lower LDT to 3x if on A64, and raise the FSB in 5mhz steps from about 20mhz over clock (i.e. start from 220mhz fsb if 200mhz fsb is stock) until superpi or Prime95 start failing. Then raise your memory divider to one that it can handle without making superpi/prime fail. Seems more logical then wasting time using some program.

[MrSeanKon]

where to put the probes in order to multimeter the abit nf7?

Ι don't have ABIT like yours now as you know.
I reckon that the proper MOSFET is the first one or the second.
Follow the instructions in previous page if you measure something quite different than Vcore value in BIOS then it is not the proper MOSFET.
Seek!

TMM OK I read your post; this is an another idea.
Bumping Vcore to maximum value does not gives your CPU response.
For example current CPU is 32M SuperPi stable at 2670MHz, Vcore1=1.663, with Vcore2=1.744 is stable at 2710 MHz and for Vcore3=1.816 --> 2730MHz.
So n is very small.
That's why I persist to find (MSFs, Vcores).

[MrSeanKon]

Let's start about subzero cooling!

hehe I made 2 other interesting shots. How the Prommi will be on 200W - do I have room? YES!


But how reliable is it - lets check it with ONLY 2 values, we know that I have -35°C display temp at 3106MHZ (1.75V) but what does the holy bible says?

-34.2 when entering 123.2 as a value instead of 123
^^ less than 1°C difference is not worth the mention - this is as exact as hell

Regards
SoF

[MrSeanKon]

And now my reply SoF!
Let's play in depth dude.....





Thus your estimated temperature for 200 Watts is -32.605 up to -32.606 Celcius!

[SoF]

wow - gimme an FX and I will check
Hey cut this comment about the bugs in 1.42 out in my quote
I will never forget my first venice runs......remember?

"I was unsure if the RAM could handle more than 267MHZ on high clocks with dividers because of Pi problems when improving RAM settings - so I played around with the CPU clock to see how high I could go to stay below this value for the RAM. Normally I would have to calculate HTT/RAM ratio until I reached 267MHZ for RAM, afterwards check if the CPU stays below it's limit.
Easier to use the suggester: 267MHZ RAM, the other MSF's as before just playing around with the CPU MFS before program tells me "no solution found".
166er divider was a fixed value, because a lower one damaged the SuperPi 1m time extremly.
This was the last value I got:

In fact this was exactly the highest SuperPi 1m setting I could get!

--> http://www.casextreme.net/pixx/bench...e/27_1s_1m.jpg

Regards
SoF

[MrSeanKon]

Hey cut this comment about the bugs in 1.42 out in my quote

OK done chief don't me..

Well what's your opinion SoF I am thinking to update A64 o/c suggester or a new program....
Focus to this post and the total thread is is here for more details.
There Sierra analyzes step by step what is going on using half multipliers....
Thus when you know roughly that your RAM MSF is 300 MHz (for example) and you use half multiplier the actual frequency for RAM is lower.
Thus what's your suggestion for v1.44??
1) Should update A64 o/c suggester?
Then program automatically when you use half multipliers will follow the second if command (no source available).
2) Or create an new tool e.g. A64 RAM frequency?

"For you:
When you are ready play more (and post results) using CPU temp estimator or data modeling better....
Use shifting property for subzero values.
Transforms like Laplace and Fourier use this technique when it is necessary.
The reason is simple; all internal models will crash for non positive data.
Calculate your wattage and please use multimeter for Vcore. "

[SoF]

I had a look to my old pascal times and where able to re-activate my little bit knowledge of programming
I will try to write a calculation for the problem how I would handle it.
You will get the source and can see if it is possible to implement it in the suggester.
I wouldn't recommend to make a seperate program only for the ram this is better to be included in the suggester.

But no time now - have to go back to work (just went home from school a short moment) I will be totally finished on the week-end

[MrSeanKon]

First of all thanks all Administrators/Moderators for sticky.

To continue:
SoF could you explain more what your calculator does?
It is written in Pascal??
Thus we can convert your source code to C# and then I will add it in next versions of Bible.
Do you know C# programming?

I am waiting your answer!

Congrats with your new work!

[SoF]

Yepp written in pascal simply using other method for X.5 dividers.
CPU vs RAM ratio will not be used anymore.
But I have to read the article again you gave me some time ago.
I can check calculations afterwards with my system again, RAM is running 260MHZ again with 2.88V

cya

PS: I will learn a little bit about C in school 2 weeks before christmas. I hope to grab some usefull staph but I think as usual it will be too slow for me and I won't learn enough :>

[MrSeanKon]

Anyway Sofoklis you can post your ideas at A64 o/c suggester thread here at XtremeSystems.

--> NOTE <--
The link for modded SuperPi at OCAU Wiki is not working sometimes.
So I uploaded here it is downloadable for guests also.

The link is here for must have o/c programs and links.
The OCAU Wiki manager updates it not me.

[gplus]

Dear Friends,

I must really apologize for the fake news about Mrseankon
I just learned that IT was a "JOKE" ..( )
Sorry for cofusing U.. :

[Unseen]

Rip my friend. We will remember u

[hipro5]

no Shi(f)t.........!..........

[Waus-mod]

Rip...

[M.Beier]

Rip

[Hardware-Addict]

Dear Friends,

I 'm so sorry for bringing these Sad News
But our DearFriend (MrSeanKon) died few days ago after a car accident..

Below there are more "news" about this tragic story..
(It's in Greek Language)
http://octech.gr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2212&highlight=


Don't know what to say, dont' wanna say more...

R.I.P Dear John
.......................................
.......................................

Ignore this post, George ( Gplus ) & the others ( @ greek forums ) got fooled by the bad quality early "April fools" joke.

MrSeanKon is alive.

John ( MrSeanKon ) asked for the deletion of the previous posts.

[hipro5]

Ahhhh.......BAD JOKE Ehhh?.......F(i)UCK HIM then........

THESE are NOT JOKES.......These are Bullshi(i)ts.......NOT EVEN a 4 years old kid doesn't do these things......

Please a Moderator BAN me for now......I'm sorry.......

[street warrior]

Hipro you are 100% right.My feelings are in the same way with yours.

[MrSeanKon]

Ahhhh.......BAD JOKE Ehhh?.......F(i)UCK HIM then........

Don't ask from other to do this cos you cannot LOL...

THESE are NOT JOKES.......

Sorry did you cried too much???
ROFL.....

.NOT EVEN a 4 years old kid doesn't do these things......

LOL do you know a 4 years kid who overclocks??
Can you understand high tech modder this program?
LOL........
LOL again if you mod my mainboard will my CPU achieve more MHz????
LOL......

Please a Moderator BAN me for now............

One vote from me!
BAN him!

[Unseen]

Well I stop supporting this program here anymore.

Who cares... u r just lousy...

[MrSeanKon]

Unseen of course I don't care for your comments that's why sent pm to gplus saying "why you posted this info at abroad forums??
For other one time some Greeks show to all foreing people that we love troubles/arguments etc......
Like our politicians LOL........

Aλλα για να ξεκαθαρισω ορισμενα πραγματακια πεσατε σε μια παγιδα η οποια ειχε στηθει για καποιους αλλους ομως δε θα κατσω να αναλυσω εδω μεσα το τι και πως.
Αντι ο καθενας να κοιταει την παρτη του ασχολειται με αρχιδιες και βλεποντας τα οι ξενοι θα γελανε με εσας κι οχι με εμενα.
Ηδη η Βιβλος παει μια χαρα και δε με νοιαζουν τα οποια αρνητικα σχολια γιαυτο και δε θα συνεχισω να ασχολιεμαι μαζι σας ο,τι κι αν γραψετε.
Οι κανονες του forum δε λειτουργησαν φαινεται οτι οι εν λογω επιτηθεμενοι εχουν θειους στην Κορωνη εν προκειμενω εδω μεσα....
Ρε psol.......

Παντως δειτε και καμμια τσοντα θα σας κανει καλο γιατι στο τελος δε θα σας κανει κικιρικο απο την υπερβολικη ενασχοληση με τους υπολογιστες.