Need help with developing ram =)

[sabrewolf732]

TCCD that can do 233MHz 2-2-2-5 at those volts would be hard to come by, same with BH die chips. Hence why many are saying they may be Micron, however the latest micron chips I knew of could not do any lower than cas 2.5-2-2...cas 2 was impossible for them, but maybe the latest rev fixed that?

I have seen ballistix at 232 2-2-2 but with like 2.9v

[goatman]

TCCD that can do 233MHz 2-2-2-5 at those volts would be hard to come by, same with BH die chips. Hence why many are saying they may be Micron, however the latest micron chips I knew of could not do any lower than cas 2.5-2-2...cas 2 was impossible for them, but maybe the latest rev fixed that?

i had TCCD do 229 2-2-2 but that's it!!

[EnJoY]

At 2.5volts? We've all had ram do those speeds and timings, but not at those voltages.

[EMU]

Focus should mainly be put into good clocking 1024mb sticks. I have been debating jumping on 2x1024mb setup, but most will not overclock well. I think that memory that is capable of 2,2,2,5 at PC3200, 2.5,3,3,7 at PC4000, and 275mhz 3,4,4,8 that would be great for 1024mb sticks

With the jump to 64bit OS's more quantity of memory will be more beneficial, and 512mb sticks just wont cut it if you want 2gb of memory. Most platforms will need to run at 2t with 4x512mb sticks, whcih is why the focus should be on 1gb sticks.

There is ALOT of competition in the overclocking department for 512mb sticks, but not as much in the 1024mb sticks yet. If you can get some good overclocking 1024mb sticks, at a decent price, you will hold the market.

[mad mikee]

Focus should mainly be put into good clocking 1024mb sticks. I have been debating jumping on 2x1024mb setup, but most will not overclock well. I think that memory that is capable of 2,2,2,5 at PC3200, 2.5,3,3,7 at PC4000, and 275mhz 3,4,4,8 that would be great for 1024mb sticks

With the jump to 64bit OS's more quantity of memory will be more beneficial, and 512mb sticks just wont cut it if you want 2gb of memory. Most platforms will need to run at 2t with 4x512mb sticks, whcih is why the focus should be on 1gb sticks.

There is ALOT of competition in the overclocking department for 512mb sticks, but not as much in the 1024mb sticks yet. If you can get some good overclocking 1024mb sticks, at a decent price, you will hold the market.

I agree w/ Emu, : we need 1G oc sticks like he said! That is the next logical step. Adding the requirement that you don't have to sell 1/2 your stuff to afford them either....

[EnJoY]

OCZ's 2x1GB PC3200 Titanium series overclocks well from what I've seen, plus they do 2-3-2-5 timings at 1T.

Crucial Ballistix 2x1GB kit is looking good too with high overclocks above 250 and 2.5-2-2 timings.

[ChongL]

The 3700 was launched before I was hired...and after testing, we scrapped it because it simply was not doing the speed at those timings...

I convinced them to use TCCD; the batch is coming in today so you guys should see the products soon.

There will be a line using TCCD selling as PC3700 rated 2-3-3-5 I believe and some higher clocking lines. They will all be using TCCD and will clock pretty well for the price. There will also be no heatspreaders on the ram

[187(V)URD@]

nice
I want 4 !!

[ChongL]

EMU...I will see what I can do about the 1 Gig sticks after we get some good response from the products we're going to launch.

If you guys have any other suggestions, please feel free to add to this thread.

Thanks!

[calcal]

are you sure its gonna be TCCD NOT TCC5?

[ben805]

I don't mean to sound negative, but you guys are jumping into something that others have years of experience in the overclocking ram enthusiast market. If there was ram that did 300 2-2-2-6 timings under 3.0 v, don't you think we would all be using it already? don't you think Micron would've made a better crucial Ballistix? they have control of their chips. So why wouldn't they just snap their fingers and release some uber ram? If anyone has the upper hand in this game they do. But they still haven't shown anything really interesting since Ballistix. THe point is, you don't just MAKE ram that does ras/cas 1 @ DDR600+ or whatever you dudes are dreaming of.
Sorry to be a buzz kill. Just being realistic
I can see OCZ and gskill Mushkin ...etc. rolling their eyes at this one.

totally agreed!!!


My suggestion for the aznblueeboi is, your best bet for now is use UTT, they're dirt cheap, but have your engineer find a way to torture tests them and make sure they'd put in twice the effort and QC as BH5 at the fab labs to ensure those suckers wont' get fried easily within couple days, be realistic and speed binned them at 260~270 @2-2-2-6, see if you guys can manage to get those chips stabilize @3.0~3.2v!! that way none of us DFI NF4 owner have to use the damn 5v rail and no messing around with modding PSU and all that jazz.

I can guaranteed all your ram will be selling like hot cakes if every single one of them (2x512MB)can do 265@2-2-2-6 rated at only 3.0~3.2v!! I don't think that's too much to ask, be reasonable and sell them for $250/pair, and I'll get two pairs right away!!

[felinusz]

With really tight and aggressive speed binning, I think you could probably do some incredible things with Hynix D5. The leftover chips that fail speed binning, you can always sell as a PC3200 part.

Just a thought.

[ChongL]

I talked to them about UTT...couldnt get a hold of any is what they told me. Otherwise I woulda chose that and speed binned. But I can't convince them that 3.3v+ is practical and will sell.

As for what trans am said...I never talked about running cas1 ddr600+ or whatever. I was just trying to get some input on what you guys wanted. I knew we weren't gonna top the best stuff out there, but we can at least release a product that will satisfy customers so they have a choice...and also at a cheaper price

[Duonger]

you need to get keller to step up. just keep focus on what u are good at already. selling to the littel resellers out there. you guys are getting in this too late. corsair, kingston, pdp, mushkin, ocz, crucial everyone has their niche and now gigaram trying to come in. it will be hard and brutal.



Duonger

PS>..sorry guys i have been following this thread so i had to post. i dont want to slander them. shoot, i have some friends that work there.

[evetS-]

there were some people at ocforums that bought some of the gigaram a while back, stated really low timings, and failed miserabley when they got it....heres the link http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=387919

[mnemonik23]

Looks like NewEgg has three versions of this GigaRam Mach1000 out. DDR400, 433, and 466. Looks to suggest binning of chips. Now will someone please be brave enough to reveal any info underneath those heat spreaders and a pic of the chips as well? Also would like to see here in the near future a sticky for this RAM series W.R.T. an o/c database. I truely LOVE the idea of 2-2-2 timings w/o having to use high voltages.

gigaram sucks a big time, at least their 2GB (2x1GB) 466MHz - they not even working @ 225 MHz 2.5-4-4-7 (I tried 2 kits)

[mnemonik23]

The 3700 was launched before I was hired...and after testing, we scrapped it because it simply was not doing the speed at those timings...

I convinced them to use TCCD; the batch is coming in today so you guys should see the products soon.

There will be a line using TCCD selling as PC3700 rated 2-3-3-5 I believe and some higher clocking lines. They will all be using TCCD and will clock pretty well for the price. There will also be no heatspreaders on the ram

any discounts for XS members?

[SnipingWaste]

Have you looked into Micron ram to make DIMMs? There is alot of ram with different specs that are not on there web site. They also have high densaty chips to for large DIMMs.

[RebelsHaven]

I had ordered gigaram Mach 1000 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered DUAL CHANNEL System Memory Model GR1DD8T-K1GB/400/2.0 - Retail before finding this thread...

So far I have tested the memory on:

DFI nF4-Ultra
Msi Neo2 Platinum
Msi Neo4 Platinum
Epox 9NDA3+

All 4 test systems, that can run 200 1T 2.5-3-3-7 9X300 with "LE" & FX-55, exhibited the exact same behavior:

At 200 1T 2-2-2-5, 10X200, many Memtest errors in test #5. I was able to minimize them by tweaking settings, but 144 errors was the lowest I could get on any board.

At 200 1T 2.5-3-3-7, only 9X240HTT passed many memtest passes. But in Windows, there was instability that was very noticable....

All systems were run from 2.5Vdimm to 3.0Vdimm(all but DFI are modded) and 2T was also tried, but the poor overclocking performance remained the same on all boards....

[ben805]

just went to that thread

The memtest screen was soo bloody red I was too scared to take a picture.
-kkat

mosel chips rated at 2-2-2-6....hehehe

[dippyskoodlez]

The 3700 was launched before I was hired...and after testing, we scrapped it because it simply was not doing the speed at those timings...

I convinced them to use TCCD; the batch is coming in today so you guys should see the products soon.

There will be a line using TCCD selling as PC3700 rated 2-3-3-5 I believe and some higher clocking lines. They will all be using TCCD and will clock pretty well for the price. There will also be no heatspreaders on the ram

this stuff may sell really well if you guys can stick with TCCD-- seeing as a lot of companys are moving to the TCC5 now.

[RebelsHaven]

My OCZ Rev2 v1.1 with TCC5 is crapola....

[Rukee]

any news on how the 2gig kit of gigaram mach1000 DDR500 GR1DD8T-K2GB/500 sticks are doing??