The San Diego OC DISCUSSION Thread

**GoodOmens** · 05-04-2005, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Gsus_Freak

ouch...thats some cold styff right there

If I am not mistaken, isn't 4 ght the record for an amd? I wonder if it is posible to get the SD that far, I have high hopes. Think I might just order one tommorw. (thanks conrad

)

Just be aware the SD has the cold bug which affects phase change and other ultra extreme cooling - the only systems capable of getting the 4000+ to near 4 ghz.

**Wingz** · 05-05-2005, 12:43 AM

260 x 11 so far @ 2-2-2-5 1:1

**(sin)morpheus** · 05-05-2005, 02:20 AM

The coldbug is at -80C or something like that, isn't it? Also, Im sure the fx-57 won't have this coldbug, people would boycott amd's headquaters if it did.

**esdee** · 05-05-2005, 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by (sin)morpheus

The coldbug is at -80C or something like that, isn't it? Also, Im sure the fx-57 won't have this coldbug, people would boycott amd's headquaters if it did.

count me in.

**Anakin_Skywalke** · 05-05-2005, 04:04 AM

I just got myself a 3700+ SD chip, it's week 15 SPMW if I remember correctly, so far only 250x11 (2750) and 1.65Volts... Doesn't seem to like low voltages though... any thoughts?

**Rubescen** · 05-05-2005, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by pershoot

letting you all know that monarch should be getting in retail SD's in a few days. i emailed them inquiring about my OEM part (the 6th was posted on the site when i ordered, and now it says 19th for OEM), and they said they may upgrade me to retail. good on them

I'm on the same boat and have been waiting for my OEM 3700 SD pre-order since 4/19/05, Monarch have the Retail 3700 San Diego listed on their website IN STOCK now, emailed Joe this morning about it and he upgraded my OEM pre-ordered to this Retail box that they just got in today, and also upgraded my 2 days shipping to overnight, all these at no extra cost...SWEET!! I can't wait to receive mine tomorrow, Monarch have got another very happy and satisfied customer for life!!

So far how high can you guys OC your San Diego on air to and still prime stable or 3Dmark loop ?? I think we need a database to keep all the OC records and steppings we got

**webbyboy** · 05-05-2005, 06:56 AM

I'm in a dilemma of whether to get a SD 3700+ or a Venice 3500+. Guys you think which one will be a better performer?

in terms of overclocking..

**pershoot** · 05-05-2005, 07:01 AM

u get 1MB L2 with 3700+ SD. i'd go for that, since your already paying that high of a price.

**Rubescen** · 05-05-2005, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by webbyboy

I'm in a dilemma of whether to get a SD 3700+ or a Venice 3500+. Guys you think which one will be a better performer?

in terms of overclocking..

I'm running the Venice 3200 now but will find out soon enough how well the 3700 SD gonna OC against it

though so far all the SD are running pretty hot, not sure if I could get it up to 2.9 on air...

**webbyboy** · 05-05-2005, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by pershoot

u get 1MB L2 with 3700+ SD. i'd go for that, since your already paying that high of a price.

My ultimate intention is to get more clocks out of it, or rather getting it above 2.7Ghz and i'd be very happy. but it's like another $60 more for that 1mb cache. is it worth? does the cache do many wonders?

**pershoot** · 05-05-2005, 07:10 AM

its a nice boost. i wouldnt call it earth shattering though...

is it worth the 60USD? hmm.. thats debatable..

**mcbarnet007** · 05-05-2005, 09:17 AM

extra cache means about 5% gain. And Charlie already said that it is faster clock for clock vs FX55

**perkam** · 05-05-2005, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by mcbarnet007

extra cache means about 5% gain. And Charlie already said that it is faster clock for clock vs FX55

Charlie may have said that, but has never been tested...and most likely the gains are from the 90nm architecture and the SSE3 and other Rev E goodies...but not by much and a well overclocked FX-55 is still king around here.

3700+ San Diego vs 3500+ Venice at stock is more than a 5% gain...they are practically world apart, especially ppl with 3200+ Venices have had more luck than Venice 3500+ owners lol

btw, mcbarnet...Your sig...You tried to write "Mobo: Dfi ...." but it read it as "Mobo

fi " lol...hence the smiley...just put a space after "Mobo:" and you'll be fine

Perkam

**charlie** · 05-05-2005, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by mcbarnet007

extra cache means about 5% gain. And Charlie already said that it is faster clock for clock vs FX55

I have no evidence of that, it's merely a "feeling" I have...

C

**webbyboy** · 05-05-2005, 10:21 AM

I just wondering those temp on the SD OC Thread, it's like hovering around 28-32, is it in airconditioning room? Or is it the weather temp is at that temperature? my winchester no oc it's at 36 degree.

**mcbarnet007** · 05-05-2005, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by perkam

Charlie may have said that, but has never been tested...and most likely the gains are from the 90nm architecture and the SSE3 and other Rev E goodies...but not by much and a well overclocked FX-55 is still king around here.

3700+ San Diego vs 3500+ Venice at stock is more than a 5% gain...they are practically world apart, especially ppl with 3200+ Venices have had more luck than Venice 3500+ owners lol

btw, mcbarnet...Your sig...You tried to write "Mobo: Dfi ...." but it read it as "Mobo

fi " lol...hence the smiley...just put a space after "Mobo:" and you'll be fine

Perkam

I know Charlie said it's a feeling but I think he's been here long enough to know what he's talking about. Can someone just run some test and see how FX55 do clock for clock vs SD?

When I said 3700+ is 5% faster than 3500+ I was refering to stock. And the only difference between the two is cache that's why I said the extra cache will give you 5% performance boost minimum clock for clock. I thought this has been well established already.

Yes, don't get 3500+, I have one and it sux. You'll prob be better off buying two 3000+ and one will prob turn out to be a good clocker.

LOL, I know my sig is messed up but it just looks funny so I kept it that way. Going to change it soon anyways.

btw, after removing IHS on my 3700 I hit 3ghz 16M stable (no time to run 32M) on water with 1.65v. However it scored the same as 2.9ghz cuz I had to run in divider. Will post after conrad gives me permission.

Time for lunch. Will update after that =D

**furyfax** · 05-05-2005, 02:14 PM

Just wundering about something, I'm kinda keen on ordering a SD 3700+ from Monarch Computers, but I live in norway and I can't see any shipping information! Do they send internationally

The San Diego's won't reach Norway before june I believe and the prices in Norway are stupid high! I have sent them an e-mail about this question, but they are ignoring me!

**MsB** · 05-05-2005, 03:34 PM

Im not a happy camper one day before monarch is suppose to get 4000 procs in they lower the price by about 60-70 bucks. Im thinkin of cnaceling my order and waiting if I have to get another order. Maybe if I call in the morning they'll give em to me at lower price? Since tecnically they haven't finished processing my order.

**Major** · 05-05-2005, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by MsB

Im not a happy camper one day before monarch is suppose to get 4000 procs in they lower the price by about 60-70 bucks. Im thinkin of cnaceling my order and waiting if I have to get another order. Maybe if I call in the morning they'll give em to me at lower price? Since tecnically they haven't finished processing my order.

There is a thread about this already, yes email them and they will refund the difference in price.

**Major** · 05-05-2005, 04:01 PM

What is the deal with Super Pi ??? I can't get the SD to pass 16 or 32 meg regardless of OC, voltages, memory settings etc ? but I can run prime95 all day long !!! whats the trick ?

I've never really used Super Pi to bench, only to test for stablity and even then only usually run 1, 2, and 4 meg so I'm not real sure what the deal is with the 16 and 32 !

**ozzimark** · 05-05-2005, 04:08 PM

curious major, i'm having the opposite problem. superPI is being awesome, but prime95 hates me, and proceeds to spew out 100 warnings, but no errors

**Nettwerk** · 05-05-2005, 04:14 PM

heh, I play CS:S for an hour and it usually tells me if something is wrong.

**ImportantAwareness89** · 05-05-2005, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Major Slaughter

What is the deal with Super Pi ??? I can't get the SD to pass 16 or 32 meg regardless of OC, voltages, memory settings ect ? but I can run prime92 all day long !!! whats the trick ?

I've never really used Super Pi to bench, only to test for stablity and even then only usually run 1, 2, and 4 meg so I'm not real sure what the deal is with the 16 and 32 !

Some benchmarks don't utilize all parts of your CPU. Thus, it's best to be sure you're stable in: Prime, SuperPi, 3DMark, and some game you play a lot.

**Crazykooter** · 05-05-2005, 06:24 PM

With bh-5 ? I am tryin to find out if its my ram or my motherboard that wont let me use 1t above 200fsb. Got any ideas. I am currnetly at 2915 mhz with my dieing tccd ram.

**stealth17** · 05-05-2005, 07:09 PM

wow so IHS off is good correct? should i take it off for my DD unit?

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