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Thread: Venice 3800+ and DFI SLI-DR PROBLEM!

  1. 04-26-2005, 09:02 AM #1
    ChkDsk
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    Venice 3800+ and DFI SLI-DR PROBLEM!

    I need some help...

    Got myself a Venice 3800+ today!


    Okay, running with the latest bios (3/10) and booting up my system (was installed by exactly same config, only with 3500+ winchester).

    All settings in bios @ default.

    Wecome screen shows up --> BSOD.

    Flashed the beta 3/10 bios, same error. [PFN_LIST_CORRUPT]
    Google answered to me that my memory or my drivers were probably the problem. Memtest @ 12*200 2-2-2-5 (Gskill TCCD) shows no errors.

    Booted up the PC with my "old" (3500+ Winnie) CPU... No problems at all. Removed the AMD driver. Booted... No difference.

    So, I got myself a clean HDD and attempted to install WinXP Pro + SP2.
    .... BDSOD .... PFN_LIST_CORRUPT and I've seen DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL or someting like that once.

    At this point I'm out of ammo and set the CPU multiplier to 8 (1600MHz)
    And now I am typing this topic with my crappy frustrated english. Any higer won't boot into Windows.

    I need some serious help overhere!
    Last edited by ChkDsk; 04-27-2005 at 01:15 PM.
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  2. 04-26-2005, 09:18 AM #2
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    I have heard about venice not playing nice with todays mobos Is yours an old revision? maybe you can get a new revision thats venice compatable
    3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
    9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth!
    9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
    9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
    9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
    9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
    3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
    Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
    3dmark scores with older gpus
    Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551
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  3. 04-26-2005, 09:20 AM #3
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    have yo tried switching mem slots, using only 1 stick, and then try the beta bios in this forums under very important bios either 1 or 3 for tccd. hope one of these work for you. let me know how it goes
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  4. 04-26-2005, 09:21 AM #4
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    fyi - 3/10 is not the latest bios for DFI SLI-DR...there is a 4/14 bios floating aroud here that OPB posted which adds support for Venice CPU's...i recommend giving that a shot.

    EDIT:
    heres the link...

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  5. 04-26-2005, 09:22 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
    I have heard about venice not playing nice with todays mobos Is yours an old revision? maybe you can get a new revision thats venice compatable
    I bought this MB Februry 11th. Seems not too old to me. But I don't know?
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  6. 04-26-2005, 09:23 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlterBridge86
    fyi - 3/10 is not the latest bios for DFI SLI-DR...there is a 4/14 bios floating aroud here that OPB posted which adds support for Venice CPU's...i recommend giving that a shot.

    EDIT:
    heres the link...

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=59420
    True... Couldn't decide yet wich one to test...
    Besides... There are many people running Venice's @ 3/10 bios... But I'm about to flash the OPB bios.
    Last edited by ChkDsk; 04-26-2005 at 09:25 AM.
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  7. 04-26-2005, 09:28 AM #7
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    if you look on dfi-street.com it says they boot up with 1/25 shipping bios so i dont understand
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  8. 04-26-2005, 10:11 AM #8
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    0414 BIOSs were made to add support for venice and diego, flash 0414-3 in and it should work for you.
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  9. 04-26-2005, 10:14 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo
    if you look on dfi-street.com it says they boot up with 1/25 shipping bios so i dont understand
    That was for the San Diego.
    away & gone
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  10. 04-26-2005, 10:19 AM #10
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    I heard there were issues with the DFI and vencie @ 1t, did you try a command rate of 2t?
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  11. 04-26-2005, 10:24 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Mag
    I heard there were issues with the DFI and vencie @ 1t, did you try a command rate of 2t?
    Not tried yet. 414-1 bios doesn't make any sense...

    [edit] 2T works... but I hate running 2T [/edit]

    Is this "solveable" by a BIOS update?!
    Last edited by ChkDsk; 04-26-2005 at 10:31 AM.
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  12. 04-26-2005, 10:43 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo
    have yo tried switching mem slots, using only 1 stick, and then try the beta bios in this forums under very important bios either 1 or 3 for tccd. hope one of these work for you. let me know how it goes
    Sorry missed your post! Shame on me!
    But that was what I thought would be my next step now. To see if I can run 1T with one stick. I'll let you know...

    [edit] w00t, 7331 and so on... 414-3 boots without errors @ 12*200 2-2-2-5 1T [/edit]
    Last edited by ChkDsk; 04-26-2005 at 10:53 AM.
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  13. 04-26-2005, 11:56 AM #13
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    lets see what you can do with that thing
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  14. 04-26-2005, 12:07 PM #14
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    Hmmz... Priming at the moment @ 2.7GHz...
    Needs 1.54V though... (default + 10%)

    Probably some stablility issues need to be fixed with official new bios?
    (let me live in my dream ok :P) But I'm running on water... Will pump up the voltage en see if I can hit 2.8GHz prime stable
    Last edited by ChkDsk; 04-26-2005 at 12:10 PM.
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  15. 04-26-2005, 12:20 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChkDsk
    Hmmz... Priming at the moment @ 2.7GHz...
    Needs 1.54V though... (default + 10%)

    Probably some stablility issues need to be fixed with official new bios?
    (let me live in my dream ok :P) But I'm running on water... Will pump up the voltage en see if I can hit 2.8GHz prime stable
    3800+@2.7Ghz with 1.54 and WC?
    I though that 3200+ could do this with vcore stock and air cooler...
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  16. 04-26-2005, 01:48 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josias
    3800+@2.7Ghz with 1.54 and WC?
    I though that 3200+ could do this with vcore stock and air cooler...

    Oh no here we go again

    It took me 9 winnies to hit 2.7 GHZ, just cause one person got lucky....

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  17. 04-26-2005, 02:38 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnottis
    Oh no here we go again

    It took me 9 winnies to hit 2.7 GHZ, just cause one person got lucky....
    Hehehe,
    Looks like the review samples were a bit better than the retail chips. My 3800+ did 2.8 @ 1.4 vcore on stock hsf spi16m stable.....
    FX56....
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  18. 04-26-2005, 02:46 PM #18
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    Lets not jump to conclusions.

    We need a helluva lot more results before we can settle on any Venice-judgements...

    No need to hype chips prematurely - no need to send them to they grave too early neither.
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  19. 04-26-2005, 03:00 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by stryg
    Lets not jump to conclusions.

    We need a helluva lot more results before we can settle on any Venice-judgements...

    No need to hype chips prematurely - no need to send them to they grave too early neither.
    So where in my post did "hype chips prematurely" and I wouldn't say 2.7G@1.54 constitutes a "dead" cpu.
    FX56....
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    well I see running T2 did the trick but it kills performance. I hope they resolve this bug! 2.7GHz isnt so great for a 3800+ Venice but it could just be it doesnt like your mobo. You could ebay that Venice and get a better one
    3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
    9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth!
    9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
    9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
    9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
    9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
    3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
    Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
    3dmark scores with older gpus
    Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
    You could ebay that Venice and get a better one
    Or possibly a worse one
    FX56....
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    Quote Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
    Or possibly a worse one
    Or even a nearly identical one :P
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    I would not be surprised that 3000+ and 3200+ Venice will be clocking in the same range than those expensive chips.
    Besides, I think it's much wiser to get 3700+ Diego than 3800+ Venice - $50 cheaper, 1MB cache and probably same clocks in result.
    Well, we'll see soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
    Or possibly a worse one

    Then ebay that too and get a 3000+ Venice if all those naysayers think its as good as a 3800+ one
    3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
    9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth!
    9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
    9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
    9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
    9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
    3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
    Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
    3dmark scores with older gpus
    Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
    Then ebay that too and get a 3000+ Venice if all those naysayers think its as good as a 3800+ one
    I think there has been a reason for not seeing too many 3500+ and 3800+ Winnies here on XS or anywhere else. Everybody hates paying 2x the money for same performance. Of course, not all 3000+ or 3200+ will be crazy OCers... I would shoot myself If bought a nearly $400 chip and got 2.8GHz on air or 3.0-3.1GHz on phase-change. Same performance might be possible with half the cash...

    But We need to see some 3000/3200 chips first...

    EDIT: I'm exagerrating, I wouldn't shoot myself
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