Dual Core AMD Opteron. First screenshot!

[Hector Ruiz]

hehe...Amd 65u quad

[terrace215]

Ah, I didn't know that, havn't been keeping up on the tech news lately like I used to. San Diego is FX-57 right? Or is it the 90nm FX-55?

San Diego is the name of the desktop Rev E. Socket 939 1MB L2 parts.

So, the new 3700+, 4000+, FX-55, (and when it launches in Q3, the FX-57) are all based on "San Diego".

(Its sibling is "Venice", Rev E. Socket 939 512K L2 parts, like 3000+, 3200+, 3500+, 3800+.)

[[XC] leviathan18]

mmm i see cheap dc athlon with 512kb cache per core and i think more speed and lower ones with 1mb per core just like newcastle and clawhammer in socket 754?

[terrace215]

No, more like the reverse. We seem to have data points indicating:

A64 X2 4800+ = dual core 2.4GHz, 1MB L2 x 2
A64 X2 4400+ = dual core 2.2GHz, 512K L2 x 2

And my guess for the 3rd part is:

A64 X2 4600+ = dual core 2.2GHz, 1MB L2 x 2

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Basically, I think they are only producing a 2 x 1MB L2 die right now, on socket 940 (for DC Opteron), and will put it on 939 for (DC desktop A64 = "A64 X2").

I think that the 4400+ part, 2.2GHz 512K L2 x 2 is actually the same large die, just with 1/2 the cache diasbled for each core.

[[XC] leviathan18]

fault cache chips?

interest in fact higher clocks with more cache...

now the question is a real perfomance gain having the extra 512kb of cache in a athlon 64? at the same clock speed?

the extra cache doesnt bring larger pipelines to the structure??? or more complex desing and more latency?

more cache doesnt affect perfomance???

dreaming mode on just imagine a dc fx with unlocked multi and 2.8ghz for each core dreaming mode off

[terrace215]

fault cache chips?

interest in fact higher clocks with more cache...

now the question is a real perfomance gain having the extra 512kb of cache in a athlon 64? at the same clock speed?

the extra cache doesnt bring larger pipelines to the structure??? or more complex desing and more latency?

more cache doesnt affect perfomance???

dreaming mode on just imagine a dc fx with unlocked multi and 2.8ghz for each core dreaming mode off

For single core:

2.2GHz 512K L2 = "3500+" ; 2.2GHz 1MB L2 = "3700+"
2.4GHz 512K L2 = "3800+" ; 2.4GHz 1MB L2 = "4000+"

So, going from 512K L2 to 1MB L2 results "on average" in a GAIN of 200 PR points.

[VVJ]

If you are allowed, can you tell us if this DC Opteron 275 is a special "low power" 275 that AMD will be selling (like Opteron HE or Opteron EE, although I wasn't expecting that at 2.2GHz), or will ALL DC Opteron 275's run at 1.2v and have a 68W TDP?
thanks.

Yes, you’re right, An OSP275 is a special 68W processor. Moreover, as far as I know, currently AMD doesn’t have an AMD Opteron 68W processor with models of 1xx and 8xx. Also, AMD will announce much hotter dual core OSA-Opteron with a TDP at least 90W.

[i found nemo]

notice the core name is italy and another core name is venice, aren't those both in the italian area??? i think amd is doin this by geographical location lol, good cpu though keep me updated

[aoc007]

San Diego is the name of the desktop Rev E. Socket 939 1MB L2 parts.

So, the new 3700+, 4000+, FX-55, (and when it launches in Q3, the FX-57) are all based on "San Diego".

(Its sibling is "Venice", Rev E. Socket 939 512K L2 parts, like 3000+, 3200+, 3500+, 3800+.)

So Venice is San Diego with half the cache and is the basis for the 512kb cache Athlon64 X2s?

[VVJ]

notice the core name is italy and another core name is venice, aren't those both in the italian area??? i think amd is doin this by geographical location lol, good cpu though keep me updated

I think it is too ridiculous to name the processor core by name of countries and towns. Spitfire, Thunderbird, Palomino, etc sound much proper.

[perry_78]

Nice information, though I believe people have spent too much time discussing the authenticy of this thread. Please, get over it, CPU-Z and CBI have never been exactly accurate regarding processors which are yet to be released.

[Dagalidis]

Let's save some money for my next upgrade....

[goodcooper]

dreaming mode on just imagine a dc fx with unlocked multi and 2.8ghz for each core dreaming mode off

or just a decent overclocking workstation board w/ nforce pro and 2x opteron 252s...

troy core = venice/sandeigo like, sse3, fixed mem controller, should overclock very well, if only they had a beefy enough board to support overvolting 2x cpus...

(come on asus k8n-dl) maybe if we cried enough about it asus will enable numa AND OVERVOLTING in their next bios revision

then all we'll need is some registered pc5000

[MaSell]

Great stuff

[ZENNZZO]

Not long ago I have signed NDA and I very proud of this. Therefore I’m afraid of to lost it, because it cost a lot.


Soon you’ll understand you are mistaken


No it is not! VCore is 1.200V. Today, I’ll try to post a little more info regarding this CPU.


Do you know something about OSP suffix? I’m not sure you do Besides, FAA encodes not core revision, the last two letters encode the revision. The A-voltage defines a variable voltage, not definite as you suppose. For example, it may be 1.200V or 1.250V. The letter F says that CPU uses a new organic package.

terrace215...pwnd, my man.

[notoriousformula]

Dual Core Opteron Pricing

[IvanAndreevich]

Excellent stuff VVJ. Интересно

[cpulloverclock]

launched today in desktop version

4200+ = 2.2GHz 512kb
4400+ = 2.2GHz 1MB
4600+ = 2.4GHz 512kb
4800+ = 2.4GHz 1MB

Venice, San diego and Athlon X2...

available in june

[aoc007]

No word on prices?

[Rys]

Big one here. The box I have for testing is 2 x Opteron 875, 4GiB, nForce4 Pro. More info when we publish my article. Feels so good to be able to talk about them, now the NDA has expired

[STEvil]

:drool:

Man, you're lucky

[Stumpjumper5200]

2.2GHz dual core, 2x 1MB L2 caches.......1.2V?!?!

AMD =

[IvanAndreevich]

Everyone is cheering for these chips.. They own, no question about it. The prices make them crap, though.

[nordik]

:drool:

Man, you're lucky

I second that

[Woody-san]

AMD Opteron Dual Core manufacturer published pricing in Tokyo:

Socket 940::
1) Opteron 875 US$2,800 (Y292K).
2) Opteron 870 US$2,300 (Y237K).
3) Opteron 865 US$1,600 (Y167K).

4) Opteron 275 US$1,400 (Y143K).
5) Opteron 270 US$1,100 (Y116K).
6) Opteron 265 US$940 (Y94K).

Availability now. the 2xx DC will ship retail im may 2005. Samples are available to selected customers ...