AMD Dual-Core Toledo Socket939 CPU-Z Pciture

[sxs112]

Is the MP locked ?

This TEST is with old BIOS

[actionB52]

i guess the p-rating points toward what we can expect, when multithreading is supported in comparison with a singlecore.

only my speculation.

greetings

[Chris27]

I just realized 4800+/2 = 2400mhz lol. I see where they get it now. I was thinking they were trying to compare it to a 4800mhz p4 or something. Which it would probably beat anyways

I thought AMD was just continuing from the 4200+ since dual cores are "better" they continue from where single cores left off? anyware I hope they are nott too expersive

[Ferry82]

What is the rating from this cpu?

A: 4400+
B: 4600+
C: 4800+

[andyhuang0308]

My guess....A
don't ask me why I answer this....
By the way... It is really cool while working... roadnews....XD

[longshot]

It's alleady widely available if you know where to look or have a MSDN subscriber ID

Thanks for the info sxs112! I'm guessing they break 100W...

Anyone know when XP 64bit will be widely available?

[ozzimark]

not sure if it's been posted anywhere else, but...

http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/Mid...glesmb/servers

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(2) AMD® 875 Opteron™ 2.2GHz, Dual Core Processors

edit: it was taken down

[karelke]

What is the rating from this cpu?

A: 4400+
B: 4600+
C: 4800+

4800+ runs @ 2,4; so 2,2 = 4600+

[furyfax]

This is what I believe:
Athlon 64 X2 4400+ = 2x 2200mhz with512kb L2
Athlon 64 X2 4600+ = 2x 2200mhz with 1024kb L2
Athlon 64 X2 4800+ = 2x 2400mhz with 512kb L2
"Athlon 64 X2 5000+" = 2x 2400mhz with1024kb L2 and so on...

[The Coolest]

Actually it'll be X2 44, X2 46, X2 48, etc. Like the FX, no 00+

[karelke]

This is what I believe:
Athlon 64 X2 4400+ = 2x 2200mhz with512kb L2
Athlon 64 X2 4600+ = 2x 2200mhz with 1024kb L2
Athlon 64 X2 4800+ = 2x 2400mhz with 512kb L2
"Athlon 64 X2 5000+" = 2x 2400mhz with1024kb L2 and so on...

Maybe, or Toledo is 512kb only (and 1MB for the Opteron)

So we have 2 options here:

Athlon 64 X2 4400+ = 2x 2200mhz with 512kb L2
Athlon 64 X2 4600+ = 2x 2200mhz with 1024kb L2
Athlon 64 X2 4800+ = 2x 2400mhz with 512kb L2

(like the Sempron)

or

Athlon 64 X2 4400+ = 2x 2000mhz with 512kb L2
Athlon 64 X2 4600+ = 2x 2200mhz with 512kb L2
Athlon 64 X2 4800+ = 2x 2400mhz with 512kb L2

[Chris27]

according to this roadmap that came out today
http://www.c627627.com/AMD/Athlon64/

they have 1mb L2 per core

the 4400+ is 2ghz
the 4600+ is 2.2ghz
and the 4800+ is 2.4ghz

If the 4400+ is priced vs the pentium D at 2.8ghz @ $240 then they should be around $200 (i think) which is a really good deal considering two 3200+ venice cores would cost around $380 .

[LowRun]

According to this news dual core A64 could take advantage of Hyper Threading: http://www.x86-secret.com/index.php?...=newsd&nid=871

[furyfax]

And for those of us who don't speak french, here's a babelfish translation:

By attentively studying the behavior of Athlon 64 Dual Core, we realized of a very interesting characteristic relating to HyperThreading. Indeed, if the architecture even of K8 cannot support the technology of INTEL, it seems indeed that registers CPUID of the processor are not of this opinion. If one studies moreover meadows the response to instruction CPUID with EAX = 1, one obtains the following values:

Athlon 64 Simple Core - CPUID (EAX = 1)
Hex (EDX) : 0x078bfbff
Bin (EDX) : 0b00000111100010111111101111111111
Hex (EBX) : 0x00000800

Athlon 64 Dual Core - CPUID (EAX = 1)
Hex (EDX) : 0x178bfbff
Bin (EDX) : 0b00010111100010111111101111111111
Hex (EBX) : 0x00020800

The bit 28 which is emphasized here in register EDX corresponds to the support of Hyper Threading. However, it is seen clearly that this bit is now positioned to 1 whereas it was to 0 for Athlon 64 Individual Core traditional. In the same way, the bits [ 23:16 ] of register EBX, which indicate the number of CPU logical supported on CPUs INTEL with Hyperthreading, are also to "2" in the case of Athlon 64 Dual Core. It seems thus that AMD chose to activate the bit "HyperThreading" on these CPUs Athlon 64 Desktop in order to profit from optimizations already misent in place per many programmers for HyperThreading of INTEL. This will thus make it possible Athlon 64 Dual Core to also benefit from work already carried out. At present, we do not know yet if them Opterons Dual Core will also have this active bit.

EDIT: LOL! OK, I see now that the translation was not neccesary!

[The Coolest]

Yep, I've known about this feature for a couple of weeks now, its a real smart move by AMD, to make programs that support Intel's HT to also support multi core CPUs without any updates to the program itself, so the user benefits from having a dual core CPU, and the programmer of the said program doesn't have to rush to get a version that actually supports multi-core CPUs out to make it compatible.

[terrace215]

According to this news dual core A64 could take advantage of Hyper Threading: http://www.x86-secret.com/index.php?...=newsd&nid=871

Interesting. Makes sense. So folks don't get confused, this would mean that a DC A64 can run two threads at once, even if the second thread is set up via HT technology.

(Not that a DC A64 could run 4 threads at once.)

[c627627]

The apparent existance of both 2x512Kb and 2x1Mb cache Toledos really threw a monkey wrench into the clear Roadmap we thought we had.

[terrace215]

The apparent existance of both 2x512Kb and 2x1Mb cache Toledos really threw a monkey wrench into the clear Roadmap we thought we had.

Your roadmaps have often been too wildly optimistic in terms of AMD speedgrade introductions, but it looks like you are getting back towards reality with this latest one, although FX-61 in Q106 seems highly unlikely, if it ever arrives at all.

[[XC] moddolicous]

Can we see a pic of the chip itself to see if it looks any different than a regular A64? U can blur out the steppings and all, I just want to see if the IHS looks any different (not sure y it would).

[andyhuang0308]

ZDA4400DAA5BV......a message comes from no where?....
ADBHE XXXXXXXX
PS:botton line: 1.30V
another roadnews...m....

[STEvil]

One dualcore is based on Venice (2x512).

The other dualcore is based on San Diego (2x1024).

Cant wait for laptops with dualcore to start showing up.....

[Fzero]

hmm im wondering how these will do in graphic benchmarks they seem very powerfull and i love how low the voltage is cant wait to see more info on them

[c627627]

Your roadmaps have often been too wildly optimistic in terms of AMD speedgrade introductions, but it looks like you are getting back towards reality with this latest one, although FX-61 in Q106 seems highly unlikely, if it ever arrives at all.

Believe it or not, that roadmap is not based on emotion.

Here's the thought process on the particular point you raised so a counter argument could be offered:

Since it appeared that we would see a 3 GHz 90nm single-core Opteron in Q1 2006, it was safe to assume that we would see a 3 GHz Athlon 64 FX and by extension 3.2 GHz Athlon 64 FX.

Ed Stroligo of overclockers.com seemed to think so and he's got a pretty good conservative track record.

His views from a couple of weeks ago mentioning this very argument are here: "Here Comes 3"
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[sxs112]

New BIOS

Athlon64 X2 Dual Core Processor 2200+(4400+)

[shuRe]

gwan sxs112 if you can post all these screenies of the toledo then you can do a little bit of overclocking on stock cooler. plz