AMD Dual-Core Toledo Socket939 CPU-Z Pciture

[matt9669]

I'm guessing they break 100W...

TDP is supposed to be 95W for the Opteron DC up to 2.2GHz, just FYI - I'd suspect these to be no different . . .

[Quanticles]

You're a brave soul.

[onemorekornkid]

benches?

[perkam]

benches?

Doesnt look like it. I imagine it would complicate NDA if he gave us ANY performance numbers.

Perkam

[shuRe]

i might be being a bit dumb but if its 2.2 with dual core then that is 2x1.1 rather than 2x2.2

[bxa121]

what about power output.. can you tel us that?

[[_Silence_]]

i might be being a bit dumb but if its 2.2 with dual core then that is 2x1.1 rather than 2x2.2

It has 2 cores, each @ 2.2Ghzs and maybe 2x 512Kb L2 cache. I think the only shared thing is the memory controller, but not sure.

I know it's impossible for u, but it would be very nice to see it under Phase Change =)=)

[terrace215]

Now, MB BIOS has not written.. Therefore CPUZ cannot recognize
Various cores manage 512Kb

Socket939

Then what was the sample shown by the Italian site, which was 939 2.4GHz 1MB L2 for EACH core?

Are there going to be 2 sorts of Toledo parts?

http://www.hwupgrade.it/articoli/1193/1.html

"On board sono integrate due cache L2 distinte, ciascuna in quantitativo pari a 1 Mbyte."

Roughly: On board is integrated two DISTINCT L2 caches, EACH equal to 1MB in size.

[matt9669]

Then what was the sample shown by the Italian site, which was 939 2.4GHz 1MB L2 for EACH core?

Are there going to be 2 sorts of Toledo parts?

http://www.hwupgrade.it/articoli/1193/1.html

"On board sono integrate due cache L2 distinte, ciascuna in quantitativo pari a 1 Mbyte."

Roughly: On board is integrated two DISTINCT L2 caches, EACH equal to 1MB in size.

My first inclination is that the Toledo chips are 512MB L2/core, and the Opteron DC (codename?) are 1MB L2/core, which would make sense considering a server/workstation environment makes excellent use of L2 . . .

[ibby]

where can i buy 1 from ?

[terrace215]

My first inclination is that the Toledo chips are 512MB L2/core, and the Opteron DC (codename?) are 1MB L2/core, which would make sense considering a server/workstation environment makes excellent use of L2 . . .

No, no. The Italian site was previewing a 2.4GHz socket 939 DC A64 part (so they claimed), not a DC Opteron part. Of course, like the current FX, and San Diego parts, there is little except the 939/940 packaging to distinguish 1xx Opteron from them.

Perhaps AMD will have both parts? DC A64 2 x 512K L2, and DC A64 2 x 1MB L2... who knows, maybe they'll change their mind and brand the latter a DC A64 FX.

[matt9669]

The Italian site was previewing a 2.4GHz socket 939 DC A64 part (so they claimed)

Hmm, Opteron DC's are only slated to 2.2GHz initially - but you're right, perhaps we will see an FX-style incarnation at 1MB/core . . .

AMD has said the FX line will continue to be single core, so they would have to give it a new name it seems like . . .

[terrace215]

Hmm, Opteron DC's are only slated to 2.2GHz initially - but you're right, perhaps we will see an FX-style incarnation at 1MB/core . . .

AMD has said the FX line will continue to be single core, so they would have to give it a new name it seems like . . .

Yeah, AMD did say that... but was that before or after Intel revealed the Smithfield EE brand?

That might change their mind.

[Pjotr]

It has 2 cores, each @ 2.2Ghzs and maybe 2x 512Kb L2 cache. I think the only shared thing is the memory controller, but not sure.

This is all correct.

[Pjotr]

Yeah, AMD did say that... but was that before or after Intel revealed the Smithfield EE brand?

That might change their mind.

True, but as far as the latest info goes, the dual core 939 CPU will get a new brand name, just like Intel goes Pentium D for their desktop dual core part.

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This is all correct.

Hmm even the 512Kb Cache? Thought that the first Dual Cores were all 1Mb Cache each CPU, or is it only San Diego's?

[Pjotr]

Hmm even the 512Kb Cache? Thought that the first Dual Cores were all 1Mb Cache each CPU, or is it only San Diego's?

The Opteron dual cores are called Egypt, Italy and Denmark (8, 2, 1 series) and have 1 MB L2 per core. The Toledo (dual core A64 new brand name) is 512 kB per core.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...18_608,00.html

[matt9669]

The Opteron dual cores are called Egypt, Italy and Denmark (8, 2, 1 series) and have 1 MB L2 per core. The Toledo (dual core A64 new brand name) is 512 kB per core.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...18_608,00.html

Thanks Pjotr, I know I had seen the roadmap and the codenames for the Opterons but I was too lazy to go look it up

[shuRe]

i know its a bit crazy wanting more than 4.4ghz combined, but does anyone have any idea on how these might overclock with the two cores? would they overclock simultaneously or seperatly, would they need real good air cooling to get responable temps?

[Gogeta]

TDP is supposed to be 95W for the Opteron DC up to 2.2GHz, just FYI - I'd suspect these to be no different . . .

I was looking at the opteron stepping comparison charts yesterday on AMD and noticed the E4 revision 200 series were approacing 90W+, so I assumed 2 cores would most likely exceed 100.

Anyways, good to know AMD has done dual core right.

[Orthogonal]

Why must we be incessantly teased by these new and unreleased products.

[matt9669]

The cores cannot be clocked separately, and while the cooling requirements won't be drastically higher than single core (according to AMD) I would suggest very good air cooling

Why must we be incessantly teased by these new and unreleased products.

This behind the scenes info bothers you?

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The Opteron dual cores are called Egypt, Italy and Denmark (8, 2, 1 series) and have 1 MB L2 per core. The Toledo (dual core A64 new brand name) is 512 kB per core.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...18_608,00.html

I had a totally wrong ideia :S Thks =)

[aCidbAbY]

nice!!!!!!! looking forward to seeing the new OC's from this hardware

[Bennah]

i know what i am buying...

A P4 660 You like your P4's dont you Ibby