DFI NF4 Ultra/SLi-D BUGS and Fixes Thread

**goddh0r** · 02-05-2005, 05:38 AM

Small Bug:

With my Winchester 3200+ and Multiplier 10 i cant use ddr333 divider with my GeiL TCCD, my sata devices arent detected anymore and system constantly reboots at that point where its normally backupping cmos before booting windows. problem persists with newest beta bios but vanishes when using a different multiplier like 9x.

**btomasie** · 02-05-2005, 08:28 AM

I'd like to share my current issues and also ask a question since the manual says NOTHING about it...

First my question:
- I have the Ultra-D board, and it has the 24-pin ATX connector, the 4-pin square one, and then it also has the FDD connector by the PCIe slots, and then the HDD connector near the nForce4 chip/fan. Is it REQUIRED to have connectors plugged into the FDD and HDD connectors to get this board to run stable? Unless I am blind, the manual only references these 2 connections but doesn't specify if/when you need to have power going into them. Thanks!

On to my problem.... I'm having major stability issues right now. My board is a R.A02 with the 1/25 BIOS. I have 2x512 VX RAM, and the board only recognizes it as 3-3-3-8. The stability issue varies and comes up within Safe Mode and Normal, and sometimes reboots itself as it's trying to load the Windows startup screen, and sometimes as the system is in XP and loading all my startup stuff. I have gone into the BIOS and manually switched the CAS to 2.0, and I also went ahead and bumped the voltage to 2.8v. I still have the board setting to use the normal RAM voltage (haven't done the 4.0v thing).

It looks like I'll try this beta BIOS right now and see if that helps. Will report back.

Thanks,
Brian

**apu673** · 02-05-2005, 08:51 AM

I was one of the few that ordered the DFI NF4 Ultra from ZZF Feb 1st. So pretty much if you have the A02 version and 1/25/05 bios, it should work fine, but for overclocking you need to flash to the 2/1/05 bios? BTW I have 2x256mb dimms, so they're not double sidded. I think if you have the 1/25/05 bios you will have trouble with double sidded 2x512 dimms.

On another note do we have to connect both 4-pin 5V/12V power connectors (FDD-type and HDD type) and what are they for? Same question as ^

**googles** · 02-05-2005, 08:54 AM

are you setting mem timing via spd? the vx needs like 3.2v to reach cas2 timings...

**btomasie** · 02-05-2005, 09:00 AM

googles,

I was curious on that too, and so per OCZ's website:

400MHz DDR1
CL 2-3-3-8 at 2.6V
CL 2-2-2-8 at 3.2V
(CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS)

So it "should" come up as 2-3-3-8 as-is.

Updating BIOS as I type (I'm on my laptop). So we'll see if this clears it up.

Thanks,
Brian

**apu673** · 02-05-2005, 09:12 AM

It looks like the 4-pin 5V/12V power connectors (FDD-type and HDD type) need to be connected only when using 2 video cards for better stability, can anyone confirm that?

**xs64** · 02-05-2005, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by apu673

It looks like the 4-pin 5V/12V power connectors (FDD-type and HDD type) need to be connected only when using 2 video cards for better stability, can anyone confirm that?

Yep , when i dont plug the 5V/12V , i cant oc my 3200+ @ 2.7Ghz ( running 6600GT SLI with a Enermax 460W 20pin PSU )

**apu673** · 02-05-2005, 09:27 AM

Wow how are you running a 2.7ghz oc and SLI with a 20-pin PSU?

**xs64** · 02-05-2005, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by apu673

Wow how are you running a 2.7ghz oc and SLI with a 20-pin PSU?

Just stable superPI , 3Dmark , games ect .... but cant stable prime , i think my Winni 3200+ is weak , but the mobo and the PSU still rock

, and my 6600GT 're running 540/1150

I tried to unplug the 5V.12V connectors , my CPU cant even boot in Windows

So now everything seems ok

, just plug all the connectors and start oc

**OPPAINTER** · 02-05-2005, 09:34 AM

I got me a Ultra, A02, came with the 1/25 bios.
Works great with my FX55 and VX (DS) memory. Runs 3d with my VX at 270MHz 2-2-2-5, 3.7V.

I have no problems with the 1/25 bios and my components.

OPP

**apu673** · 02-05-2005, 09:36 AM

What dimm slots are best for dualchannel overclocking?

**xs64** · 02-05-2005, 09:42 AM

And i have one problem with my Adata pc4800 2x256Mbs ( all bioses ) non ocing here

In Ram slot 1 and 3 , the boot screen appears : please get 1 ram in slot2 for single channel and slots 2 and 4 for dual channel ......
Running in slots 2 and 4 is rock , slots 1 and 3 are no work for me

**OPPAINTER** · 02-05-2005, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by apu673

What dimm slots are best for dualchannel overclocking?

I've been useing the orange ones

OPP

**OPPAINTER** · 02-05-2005, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by xs64

And i have one problem with my Adata pc4800 2x256Mbs ( all bioses ) non ocing here

In Ram slot 1 and 3 , the boot screen appears : please get 1 ram in slot2 for single channel and slots 2 and 4 for dual channel ......

Yea I wish they would get rid of that Notice at bootup, thats the reason I havn't really played much with those slots.

OPP

**xgman** · 02-05-2005, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by quicksilverXP

I'm guessing you may have gotten an engineering sample/beta/ test sample since he said most newer boards are shipped with the February bios. That's too bad... I hope mine doesn't have the same problem when I started messing with it tonight. I ONLY have TCCD memory and I would love to test high HTT limits...

But yeah... sorry for not posting any fixes/problems... I just wanted to respond. I will, however, have this board tonight... so consider this post more of a reserved spot for a bug/fix related issue in the near future.

retail boards so far are NOT all shipping with Feb bios. Maybe the next batch, but only a few so far. They actually sent me an Eng Sample with the Feb bios by mistake.

**cantankerous** · 02-05-2005, 11:35 AM

Hi guys,

My VX shows up as 3-3-3-8 as well on my NF2 board if I load optimized defaults. Manually changing the values to 2-2-2-11 work fine however.

**Jupiler** · 02-05-2005, 12:43 PM

OPP :

what PSU are you using?

**v3n** · 02-05-2005, 01:08 PM

is it possible to control the fan RPM on the northbridge cooler as i run a quiet ship

**trans am** · 02-05-2005, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by OPPAINTER

I got me a Ultra, A02, came with the 1/25 bios.
Works great with my FX55 and VX (DS) memory. Runs 3d with my VX at 270MHz 2-2-2-5, 3.7V.

I have no problems with the 1/25 bios and my components.

OPP

opp I want your VX settings for this board. you're getting like 15mhz over mine. I know these can go higher, even in dual channel. Help a brother out.

**Blindbat** · 02-05-2005, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by btomasie

I'd like to share my current issues and also ask a question since the manual says NOTHING about it...

First my question:
- I have the Ultra-D board, and it has the 24-pin ATX connector, the 4-pin square one, and then it also has the FDD connector by the PCIe slots, and then the HDD connector near the nForce4 chip/fan. Is it REQUIRED to have connectors plugged into the FDD and HDD connectors to get this board to run stable? Unless I am blind, the manual only references these 2 connections but doesn't specify if/when you need to have power going into them. Thanks!

Thanks,
Brian

Section 2 page 58 of the pdf manual for which I provided a download link in previous page:

Use a power supply that complies with the ATX12V Power Supply
Design Guide Version 1.1. An ATX12V power supply has a standard
24-pin ATX main power connector and a 4-pin +12V power
connector that must be inserted onto CN10 and CN9 connectors
respectively.
The 4-pin +12V power connector enables the delivery of more
+12VDC current to the processorâ€™s Voltage Regulator Module
(VRM).
The HDD-type and FDD-type power connectors are additional
power connectors. If you are using two graphics cards, we
recommend that you plug power cables from your power supply
unit into the two 5V/12V power connectors. This will provide more
stability to the entire system. The system board will still work even if
the additional power connectors are not connected.

**matt9669** · 02-05-2005, 06:50 PM

Use the link to the PDF manual on my server, it's waaay faster:

http://www.mattoverclocked.com/dfi_nf4.pdf

**Sgt_Strider** · 02-05-2005, 08:21 PM

Trans, is it possible the DFI boards have issues with TCCD rams? my Patriot TCCD is giving me trouble when I install Windows with some files not copying over to the hard drive. Also I made a mistake initially plugging in the power LED and the HDD Led front connectors. Is it possible that I damaged it and that's why the LED's aren't on even though the CPU and the HDD is connected?

**ominae** · 02-05-2005, 08:24 PM

yes, please share memory settings for VX & TCCD (although OPP has posted screenies of his TCCD settings)

**Sgt_Strider** · 02-05-2005, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by ominae

yes, please share memory settings for VX & TCCD (although OPP has posted screenies of his TCCD settings)

Everything is on Auto and I disabled Bank interleave.

Edit: When the computer boots up, the screen displays my timing as 1T even though I set everything to Auto. Could that be the reason why? How do I get rid of 1T and make it less aggressive to ensure stability?

**Orker** · 02-05-2005, 08:32 PM

Whenever i reboot the comp i get at warning message on how to install the ram in dimm 2 and 4 slots... f1 to continue del to enter bios... how do i stop this from showing up

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