3Dmark2001 coming to an End??

[perry_78]

I personally dont care. But dont retire it before I beat 30K with a 6600GT

[$0m#0n#]

3,14DMark

rofl

[blinky]

another problem is that with 03 and 05 u cant distinguish between single gpu scores and multi gpu scores.. so people who cant buy two cards cant compete anymore

[$0m#0n#]

another problem is that with 03 and 05 u cant distinguish between single gpu scores and multi gpu scores.. so people who cant buy two cards cant compete anymore

no SLI no SLI no SLI no SLI

[Geforce4ti4200]

wow I was disapointed when I heard news of this. so how long does 2001 have left? 6 months before the just delete the whole orb????? futuremark would be shooting themselves in the foot cause 2001 is most popular by far and some people even base their upgrades partially on that benchmark. I really hope they reconsider

[don_vercetti]

they hardly lose out if a bunch of people who don't gain them any money stop posting on the orb do they.....
but i agree, 3d2001 is a good bench and should keep going.

[isp]

So why are they still selling it? If I were to buy it today and it dissapears in a couple months I wouldn't like that...they going to upgrade 2001 users? Aren't they technically taking away a product we payed for?

[Dumo]

This sucks ...but I knew it was coming eventually.
The benchmark might not have any relavance to todays games, but it's a big deal to me and prolly the other guys going for top spots.
03' and 05' are no fun and too gpu dependant.
I have no motivation to run either.

We need a 3d benchmark that is equally balanced on cpu, gpu, and memory subystem. Makes it so much more fun to squeeze every last point out of your rig.

Righ on mark

[DrJay]

Aren't they technically taking away a product we payed for?

...exactly.

Myself, I would rather they did away with '03. Just keep '01 and '05. It kinda pisses me off that '03 scores I worked to achieve several months or longer ago now have to be filtered for an older build to even be seen.

[mdzcpa]

Cmon guys.....I suppose they could bring back 3DMark 99 as well. Like 01, it was very system dependent as well. But that doesn't make it desirable.

At some point you have to realize that a benchmark becomes obsolete. Although it may be tons of fun for those who compete, for real benchmark purposes, 01 is irrelevant now. Its just too old. It cannot even measure DX9 performance that's been around for years now.

Again, I'm not saying 01 has no value. Just not as a benchmark anymore.

Moving forward, one thing I do agree with, is that the benchmark should be much more system wide balanced like 01 was. If we can get that, than the demise of 01 would be more palatable. It would be cool to see FX single card guys battling with budget CPUs and SLI. There would more combinations of hardware to get you good scores. That would be fun.

[DrJay]

I suppose they could bring back 3DMark 99 as well.

C'mon now, let's not be ridiculous,......maybe 3DMark99Max.

At some point you have to realize that a benchmark becomes obsolete. Although it may be tons of fun for those who compete, for real benchmark purposes, 01 is irrelevant now.

I think in a way they are all a little irrelevant. To me, the real difference is; which one do I find entertaining/fun.

Jay

[mdzcpa]

I think in a way they are all a little irrelevant.

Perhaps so. But a well designed benchmark shouldn't be.

Either way, I think FM better hit the next one out of the park or they will be in trouble. FM has lost a lot of credibility with 03 and 05.

[Dissolved]

Perhaps so. But a well designed benchmark shouldn't be.

Either way, I think FM better hit the next one out of the park or they will be in trouble. FM has lost a lot of credibility with 03 and 05.

you don't even have a 2k1 link in your sig, Shame on you!

[mdzcpa]

Lol....I haven't benched 01 in almost a year now. In fact, the only reason I even have my 03 and 05 scores in my sig is to show potential customers what my Gaming SLI rigs can do

I'm not a competitive bencher anymore...I prefer building "real" 24/7 gaming and power user systems that folks can actually use. Perhaps that explains my attitude towards the demise of 3D01.

[Geforce4ti4200]

I think we can relax for now, I just read the end of his thread:

I think this thread is more or less done. Thanks for all your input. What, when and how the support for 2001 SE will end is not set or yet decided.

Then he locked it. I know 2001 is gonna end oneday but having no "doom day" is a good thing. would be ok if it lasted another year, great if it lasted two.

[charlie]

I've always had this idea for a 3D benchmark, let me share:
Benchmark can be run 2 ways, in SOLO mode and in competition mode.
It is a drag strip, with thousands of screaming fans in the seats... a Top Fuel Dragster wheels around from the pits into the bleach box and lights up the tires in giant clouds of acrid white smoke. As the smoke clears, the car rolls up to the christmas tree... the heat from the engine makes heat waves and the green, yellow and red lights flicker. The light turns green and the driver puts the hammer down and launches the car, the tires wrinkle and propel the car down the strip covering the 1/4 mile in less than 5 seconds and the parachute is deployed and the car slows....

Now imagine the shader effects.... the smoke, the heat, the backfiring flames from the exhaust, the parachute deploment, the detail in the crowd, teh gleaming reflection coming off the paint finish as reflections...

And the BEST part!!!!!!

In COMPETITION MODE, you can select another benchmark off the ORB and load this benchmark as an OPPONENT. So you could LOAD OPPAINTER'S bench and race "him".... lol watching his car finish like 3 cars ahead of yours...

thoughts?? Maybe someone should tell worm/FM about my idea.... they could use my idea at little cost just giving me lifetime FX's, Mobo's and GPU's,

C

[Geforce4ti4200]

isnt thats what compare bars are for? Its funny to see our nature bars, mine is just a stub compared to his

[charlie]

isnt thats what compare bars are for? Its funny to see our nature bars, mine is just a stub compared to his

maybe you're not getting it... when you're chasing the guy in front of yo on the ORB, with whatever GPU just load his bench results and if your car beats him in the bench, you made a better run (more 3DMarks) it's graphical and exciting to watch...

Wonder how much $$ it would cost to have a 1 minute benchmark created as above by TOP game design folks... and create the infrastructure for an "ORB"???? Yeah, that's it! The CHARLIE-ORB....hmmmmm

C

[JWB]

I mean, there's no SuperPi ORB either.

Here it is: http://www16.big.or.jp/~bunnywk/cgi-bin/superpi.cgi

[isp]

Charlie is loaded with ideas...:thumbsup:
... better be careful with what you share publicly or they might pull an asetek on ya

[perry_78]

no SLI no SLI no SLI no SLI

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I hate SLI as well - viva la single GFX! Even though I have an SLI motherboard, I prefer one card.

To keep this post at least somewhat intellectual, I think it's because of the same reason why I won't flock to dual core CPUs. More components interdependent on each other for performance/oc and especially in the graphics section, the differentiating between one GPU and multi GPU.

[bias_hjorth]

I've always had this idea for a 3D benchmark, let me share:
Benchmark can be run 2 ways, in SOLO mode and in competition mode.
It is a drag strip, with thousands of screaming fans in the seats... a Top Fuel Dragster wheels around from the pits into the bleach box and lights up the tires in giant clouds of acrid white smoke. As the smoke clears, the car rolls up to the christmas tree... the heat from the engine makes heat waves and the green, yellow and red lights flicker. The light turns green and the driver puts the hammer down and launches the car, the tires wrinkle and propel the car down the strip covering the 1/4 mile in less than 5 seconds and the parachute is deployed and the car slows....

Now imagine the shader effects.... the smoke, the heat, the backfiring flames from the exhaust, the parachute deploment, the detail in the crowd, teh gleaming reflection coming off the paint finish as reflections...

And the BEST part!!!!!!

In COMPETITION MODE, you can select another benchmark off the ORB and load this benchmark as an OPPONENT. So you could LOAD OPPAINTER'S bench and race "him".... lol watching his car finish like 3 cars ahead of yours...

thoughts?? Maybe someone should tell worm/FM about my idea.... they could use my idea at little cost just giving me lifetime FX's, Mobo's and GPU's,

C

Now the most scary part is that I had similar thoughts once.. The WOULD truely be awesome. A bit hard to implant cause most cars wouldnt even get to the start line before the gurus make it to goal..
What is it about you and cars anyway

[perry_78]

charlie, that would be awesome! VPGU adjustments along the way, pouring that LN2 into the tube like a madman

[Bennah]

It would be a sad day if 3D 01 was gone but if replaced with another overall benchmark then it would be alright. People who then become to love the new 'overall' benchmark and would forget about 3D 01... some time or another anyways

When the day does come, Im going to be felling sorry for GeForce

Any results, mhz overclocking, fsb overclocking, super pi etc... GeForce is always there "What about 3DMark 01. Any results?" and his predictions. I feel that apart of GeForce would be gone aswell when 3DMark 01 goes.

I think its a matter of time before it goes but we have to enjoy it whilst we can. Try and get XtremeSystems 3D Team at the top of every category going

[charlie]

And then when the benchie concludes... the frame of the finish line, cars nose to nose would be the test result screen!! Then you could post a screenie and say like I OWNZ U, with your car like a wheel ahead of the other guy