Sapphire Shows Radeon Xpress 200 Enthusiast Board @ CeBit

[zoom314]

HI

I must say the Sapphire version look great with a very lovely colour but my EQS M56K9-MLF is running smooth

ATi xpress 200 chipset(RS480) is the best chipset i seem so far , Value for Money.

Just last night I was playing Half Life 2 on it with the onboard graphics still running smoothly with DX 9.0 support from the Hardware.

Anyway EQScomputers.com is avaliable in Europe.
ATX version also out now called M58K9-MLF

Question is, What southbridge chip do You have in It and is It overclockable?

[Abraxas]

Good, that means by July (my vacation month), all the bugs should have been found and rung out, so I can buy one with confidence (maybe).

As long as its out before Quake Con, then alright!

[zabomb4163]

And what exactly is that world record?

OPP

your guess is as good as mine. the highest HT ive seen is 450, but i dont think that was on air.

[spytech]

is it safe to assume that this board will be out at the same time as the venice core? since i am waiting for venice i guess i can wait to see what the grouper can do paired with venice.

when will this board go out to reviewers? and the specs on the first page of this thread, will they be final?

[Franky 4 Finger]

Is this board actually going to show up in the retail market?

[zoom314]

I think Grayskull has said that earlier. And I'd hate to be disappointed really as I'm thinking of buying, Not one, But two of them. Asap when I can.

[Caper]

It would be very dissapointing if this board doesn´t shows up in the retail market.
I know for sure that I am willing to be a "guinea pig" with this board!

[Psyche911]

is it safe to assume that this board will be out at the same time as the venice core? since i am waiting for venice i guess i can wait to see what the grouper can do paired with venice.

when will this board go out to reviewers? and the specs on the first page of this thread, will they be final?

I'm quite sure it will show up after Venice. But hopefully close after. Possibly both next month, if I remember correctly.

[zoom314]

I'm quite sure it will show up after Venice. But hopefully close after. Possibly both next month, if I remember correctly.

Venice? Nah, I'm waiting for San Diego later in this half of 2005, Mainly the FX-57 2.8GHz which should overclock to between 3.5GHz and 4.4GHz I've read, But of course that would be LightSpeed territory quite possibly.

[3FFeX]

*subscribing*

If one decides to use the full watercooling kit; wouldn't the extra heat from the mosfets added to the loop cancel out any potential OC-gain? Or is this system designed for separate cooling loops?

2 rads , 2 pumps 2 loops ; p

[kraggy]

Ok, stupid question time. Last time I heard ATI was NOT gonna make a 939 socket mobo with the ATI chipset. I have not seen anything in this thread or the discription that says this mobo is a 939 socket mobo. Did I miss something??

[cadaveca]

Yes, this is a different chipset.

[clockedOut]

Ok, stupid question time. Last time I heard ATI was NOT gonna make a 939 socket mobo with the ATI chipset. I have not seen anything in this thread or the discription that says this mobo is a 939 socket mobo. Did I miss something??

ATI is NOT making ANY mobo's.... this is a Sapphire mobo. ATI is ONLY making chipsets for mobo's.

[cadaveca]

I believe he was talking about ATI not releasing any more boards for 939 with the rs350 chipset, but i beleive this new motherboard is rs480, or xpress 200?

that last comment was not needed. That's like saying ati does not make graphics cards, or AMD does not make CPU's...in actuality, these companies just design the processors, so your point is rather redundant.

[clockedOut]

Well Grayskull made it VERY clear that ATI would not be making any mobo. They are only making the chipsets.

Ummmm, last time I checked ATI did make video cards and AMD does make CPU's so I guess I dont get your point.

[cadaveca]

uh, sapphire/powercolor/tul make the boards for ati, AFAIK. TMSC makes the actual GPU. I still fail to see your logic.

[perkam]

Doesnt really matter if ATi makes mobo or not, its gonna have the same chipset anyway. Also, macci, fugger, and opp were ALL overclocking on boards with the ATI chipset so I imagine they shouldnt be too bad Though the only thing that'll interest ppl to go RX48x over nf4 is the MVP boards which allow dual ATI vid cards.

Perkam

[kraggy]

OK, my bad, I know that ATI just designs the chips/chipsets...actually Sapphire is now making all of ATI's so called in-house cards...all of them, ATI no longer makes cards. I read an on-line article about it a few weeks ago.

But anyways.....my point being that "is there or is there not going to be an ATI chipset mobo for AMD!"

The mobo featured in this thread is a Intel socket...right?

[cadaveca]

no, amd. radeon xpress 200 will have incarnations in all a64 platforms, including 754, according to the original info given back in november. I think Xbit may have had an article...but here's ati's press release:

RADEON® XPRESS™ 200M drives a new class of integrated graphics and power management for PCI Express-based AMD mobile platforms

MARKHAM, Ontario--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 17, 2005-- ATI Technologies Inc. (TSX:ATY) (NASDAQ:ATYT), the world leader for notebook PC graphics, today announced the introduction of RADEON® XPRESS™ 200M - the industry's first integrated PCI Express DirectX 9 chipset for AMD (NYSE: AMD) processor-based notebook PCs. Designed to support a range of form factors, RADEON XPRESS 200M delivers industry-leading RADEON graphics and POWERPLAY 5.0 power management for a best-in-class mobile user experience. Flexible in design, RADEON XPRESS 200M supports all currently available Mobile AMD Athlon™ 64 processors and Mobile AMD Sempron™ processors. Due to its power management functionality, RADEON XPRESS 200M is ideally suited for thin and light notebooks powered by forthcoming AMD Turion™ 64 mobile technology.

RADEON XPRESS 200M for AMD will be available from such leading OEMs and ODMs as HP, Sharp, Medion, Acer, Targa, Gateway, NEC, Mitac, Arima, MSI, Compal, Quanta and Wistron.

"ATI is now offering a leading edge PCI Express mobile solution with excellent performance, lightning-fast onboard DirectX 9 graphics and innovative power management," said Marty Seyer, vice president and general manager, Microprocessor Business Unit, Computation Products Group, AMD. "Together with the upcoming AMD Turion 64 mobile technology, we're helping highly mobile PC customers embrace thin and light platforms for powerful system performance, broad connectivity and superior multimedia capabilities."

With the introduction of RADEON XPRESS 200M, ATI delivers onboard RADEON X300 class visual performance and features. This visual performance is complimented by POWERPLAY 5.0, an innovation in power management for PCI Express. Through new capabilities such as Dynamic Lane Count Switching (DLCS), power is adjusted on the fly to reduce GPU power consumption by up to 30 per cent.

"ATI has long been a pioneer in integrated chipset technology on notebooks," said Phil Eisler, Senior Vice President and General Manager, Integrated and Mobile Business Unit, ATI Technologies. "Through working closely with AMD on the development of these chipsets we have a compelling platform to harness the performance of present and future generations of mobile AMD processors."

RADEON XPRESS 200M is currently available from Sharp in their Mebius PCXG-70H and Mebius PCXG-50H media center notebook PCs.

About ATI Technologies

ATI Technologies Inc. is the world leader in the design and manufacture of innovative 3D graphics and digital media silicon solutions. An industry pioneer since 1985, ATI is the world's foremost graphics processor unit (GPU) provider and is dedicated to delivering leading-edge performance solutions for the full range of PC and Mac desktop and notebook platforms, workstation, set-top and digital television, game console and handheld device markets. With 2004 revenues of US $2 billion, ATI has more than 2,700 employees in the Americas, Europe and Asia. ATI common shares trade on NASDAQ (ATYT) and the Toronto Stock Exchange (ATY).

Copyright 2005 ATI Technologies Inc. All rights reserved. ATI and ATI product and product feature names are trademarks and/or registered trademarks of ATI Technologies Inc. All other company and product names are trademarks and/or registered trademarks of their respective owners. Features, pricing, availability and specifications are subject to change without notice.

For media or industry analyst support, visit our Web site at http://www.ati.com

CONTACT: ATI Technologies Inc.
Jon Carvill, Public Relations Manager,
Integrated and Mobile Business Unit
(905) 882-2600, Ext. 8477
jcarvill@ati.com
OR
Other ATI Contacts:
Porter Novelli Canada
Derek Baker, Senior Consultant
(416) 422-7158
derek.baker@porternovelli.com
OR
For investor relations support, please contact:
ATI Technologies Inc.
Janet Craig, Director, Investor Relations
(905) 882-2600, Ext. 2631
jcraig@ati.com

SOURCE: ATI Technologies Inc.

please note that this release is for the "m" version, and that should be 754 platform. There are 2 other versions for desktop, one with intergrated video, one without.

Finally, check out this article:

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=88&type=expert

enough info for ya?

[zoom314]

My next PC upgrade of zoom1 will have these parts(zoom4 will be nearly the same and be air cooled only):

zoom1: XP-M 2600+ cpu (2.59GHz @ 1.95vdc), DFI NFII Ultra Infinity A+(01/21/04 Bios)
JPAC 500w PSU, Kingston 256MB PC3200 Dimm
[Upgrade: Sapphire Grouper Motherboard[Radeon Xpress 200 chipset], OCZ 520w PSU, FX-57, Vapochill LS(FX-57),
CoolerMaster Aquagate Water Cooling System (ALC-U01) for NB Chip & Mosfets],
G.skill PC4400 512Mb Dimm, Lian-Li PC-7a black atx case(Modded for Vapochill LS)
zoom2: A64 3200+ cpu @ 2.34Ghz, MSI K8T Neo2-F(3.3 Bios)
Aspire 520w PSU(35A on the 12v rail), Buffalo Hynix 256MB PC3200 Dimm
zoom3: 2-244 1.8Ghz Opteron cpus @ 4.02GHz, MSI K8T Master2-FAR(1.35b Bios)
Enermax 460w PSU(33A on the 12v rail), Corsair CMX512RE-3200LL 512MB PC3200 Dimm
zoom4: soon FX-57 2.8GHz cpu, Sapphire Grouper Motherboard[Radeon Xpress 200 chipset] motherboard],
G.skill PC4400 512Mb Dimm, XP-120 & 2-120mm 220cfm fans, 1-80-120mm adapter, 20Gb 7200rpm hdd,
OCZ 520w PSU, Lian-Li PC-7a black atx case.

What do Yous gus think of this?

[kraggy]

Thank you, I hope they release a ATI - AMR version in a 939 socket. If they do I will be dumping these 2 6800-U.

[cadaveca]

should be here by fall, i hope. putting money aside for that build now!

[kraggy]

should be here by fall, i hope. putting money aside for that build now!

Awwww man...I need to go change my shorts! All this time I thought it was gonna be a Intel socket + AMR only solution! wOOOOOt!

Yeah!

[cadaveca]

I don't think intel and AMR or SLi work well together because of the difference in mem control, but that's just my opinion. I also think that's why nvidia released the amd version first..because the amd version is faster. Anyway, there is no officail word on which cpu they will support, but AMD makes the most sense.

[zoom314]

I don't think intel and AMR or SLi work well together because of the difference in mem control, but that's just my opinion. I also think that's why nvidia released the amd version first..because the amd version is faster. Anyway, there is no officail word on which cpu they will support, but AMD makes the most sense.

The real reason the Nforce4 for AMD came out 1st is cause Intel wouldn't give a license to Nvidia until Intel wanted to just recently as Intel likes to control who makes chipsets for Intels cpus, If that is what You are referring to that is. Me I'll stick with AMD, Intel makes chips that sound like they are quicker on paper, But in reality It's still the MHz myth coming into play still.