AMD Athlon64 4200+ TEST First Look

**Magnj** · 03-04-2005, 05:21 AM

Looks sweet

Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=

Anyone from XS ever thought of organize a bulk order for chips or cards?

I second this

**Brandybuck** · 03-04-2005, 05:23 AM

i think its o/c capacity is better than fx 55

**Nube** · 03-04-2005, 05:32 AM

My winnie @ 2600mhz pr rating is 4150+... i get 32s superpi 1m also..
only 1.5v

they extra 1mb cache doesnt make much of a difference in superpi i guess, but it should overclock

**Boogotop** · 03-04-2005, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by Nube

My winnie @ 2600mhz pr rating is 4150+... i get 32s superpi 1m also..
only 1.5v

they extra 1mb cache doesnt make much of a difference in superpi i guess, but it should overclock

but on the 2k1 it's make a huge difference!!

**$0m#0n#** · 03-04-2005, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Boogotop

but on the 2k1 it's make a huge difference!!

yea, it's like +2k in 01, I imagine how everyÂ¹ here has it in 3 monthes @3Ghz boxed ;D

**Arseface** · 03-04-2005, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by Brandybuck

i think its o/c capacity is better than fx 55

What are you basing this on? Do you own one as well, or it just speculation?

**Super Nade** · 03-04-2005, 06:40 AM

Mate,

Where did you buy your CPU?

Can we have more pics, of the CPU itself?

**OC Detective** · 03-04-2005, 06:57 AM

These are likely engineering samples you dont buy them when they are first issued out for field testing you are merely lucky enough to receive one to test.

**Arseface** · 03-04-2005, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by OC Detective

These are likely engineering samples you dont buy them when they are first issued out for field testing you are merely lucky enough to receive one to test.

Then question, then, should be "How did you get hold of one without having to sign an NDA"?

**Stewie007** · 03-04-2005, 07:11 AM

I'm saving up my money hehe....

**=[PULSAR]=** · 03-04-2005, 08:57 AM

I think alot of people are missing the point of the 1MB of cache. Everyone is posting screenies at 2.6ghz and 32s 1M, what everyone is forgettin is the ram on the 4200+ is running at 200mhz. Everyone posting 32s is atleast a 250mhz and tight timings.

**austinbmxnig** · 03-04-2005, 09:16 AM

yeah i think it has the potential to kick alot of ass

**J-Mag** · 03-04-2005, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Nube

they extra 1mb cache doesnt make much of a difference in superpi i guess, but it should overclock

Why would you think a 1mb cache would help overclock?

In my mind the more transistors you have on a chip the LESS ability it will have to overclock because there is more likelihood that one of thoose transistors can't take the strain of increased speed.

**Chr0n1c** · 03-04-2005, 09:25 AM

Looks very nice, I wonder what it will cost.

**nebuchanezzar** · 03-04-2005, 09:25 AM

I'm happy to see teh 1m cache. thats basically worth an extra 1 or 2 hundred mhz in effect, thats how it affects 3dmark01 so much. Thats why clawhammers are rated the same P ratings as newcastles 200mhz lower in actual clock speed. That new core kicked 32 seconds...stock. That should leave lotsa room for improvement(we all hope)

**UCmajewski** · 03-04-2005, 09:26 AM

so i guess its safe to assume that the FX 57 is coming out soon!

**blueworm** · 03-04-2005, 09:30 AM

If a 4200+ is surfacing this could only mean that its release is imminent. This said I cant see the 4200+ bieng around at the same time as FX55.
IIRC the 4000+ was not released until FX55 came out.
Perhaps they will release 4200+ and FX57 before Q3.
See Roadmap.

**WiCKeD** · 03-04-2005, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by blueworm

If a 4200+ is surfacing this could only mean that its release is imminent. This said I cant see the 4200+ bieng around at the same time as FX55.
IIRC the 4000+ was not released until FX55 came out.
Perhaps they will release 4200+ and FX57 before Q3.
See Roadmap.

Tim on EOCF said the retailer he was purchasing from said it would be due out in Q2 if not this quarter! Checkitout: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...d.php?t=159500

**Sup3rman** · 03-04-2005, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by sxs112

PI 32M

I would like to see your memory timing? Also can you run a bench at 9, 10, or 11 multiple so I can compare to my winchester clock for clock?

**HARDCORECLOCKER** · 03-04-2005, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Super Nade

Mate,

Where did you buy your CPU?
Can we have more pics, of the CPU itself?

Maybe a gift from outerspace..............

**blueworm** · 03-04-2005, 09:48 AM

The plot thickens.
BTW what is the difference between "Venice" and SanDiego" core's?
I imagine its simply "venice" 512Kb L2 cache, and "SanDiego" 1024Kb L2! But is there anything else?

**Arseface** · 03-04-2005, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by blueworm

The plot thickens.
BTW what is the difference between "Venice" and SanDiego" core's?
I imagine its simply "venice" 512Kb L2 cache, and "SanDiego" 1024Kb L2! But is there anything else?

As far as I know, that's about it

**Arseface** · 03-04-2005, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by WiCKeD

Sse3.

They both have SSE3 though, don't they?!

**drcrawn** · 03-04-2005, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200

who owns this diego cpu? why hasnt he overclocked it yet! thats the big thing everyone is waiting for, has amd's new process allowed for higher clocks vs. 130nm?

"Like..."

overclock the cpu as far as itll go and run a whole suite of benchmarks including 3dmark 2001

Yes, that's what I want to see too. 32 seconds is pretty quick for 200x13 even with 1mb L2. No mention of SSE2 patch or not on this SuperPi.

This is pretty cool nonetheless. Whoever is playing with this chip, can you overclock it please for us?

2.6ghz @1.4v though, wow.

Sup3rman: I'm sure the chip is multi locked at 13, so you probably wont be seeing 9x, 10x, and 11x runs.

**Kanavit** · 03-04-2005, 10:00 AM

omg that is awesome!

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