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  1. 03-03-2005, 10:54 PM #1
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    AMD Athlon64 4200+ TEST First Look


    present CPUZ is unable to distinguish its edition (the PR value to distinguish wrongly).. But this section CPU supports the SEE3 estimate is 0.09 system regulation


    quickly takes the news. L2 to use the 1MB design


    at present uses SAMPLE..


    TEST

    The test provides
    AMD 4200+
    XXXXX
    512MB*2 to run DDR 400 1T
    Hitachi 80G SATA hard disk
    GF-5750/128MB

    Thank andyhuang0308 to provide the news...

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  2. 03-03-2005, 11:01 PM #2
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    thats pretty quick for that clock, looks good!

    All along the watchtower the watchmen watch the eternal return.
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  3. 03-03-2005, 11:03 PM #3
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    On the AMD RoadMap that looks to be a 4000+ Venice Core

    2.6Ghz on stock volts looks like were gettin back to the good old days when Winnie's clocked high
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  4. 03-03-2005, 11:06 PM #4
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    It has 1Mb of L2 cache so seems like it is a multi crippled 90nm FX55
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  5. 03-03-2005, 11:11 PM #5
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    Correction it may be a San Diego core
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  7. 03-03-2005, 11:23 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gitsum
    Where did it come from?
    That's what I wanna know.
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    I want one

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  10. 03-03-2005, 11:42 PM #10
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    Very nice. Just like everyone, I'll be keen to see how they clock and scale with better cooling and voltage.

    Definitely fast times for that clock. My 3200 winnie can do 32s running at ~250x10 with GSkill LEs, so that CPU looks very promising!
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  11. 03-03-2005, 11:42 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Detective
    It has 1Mb of L2 cache so seems like it is a multi crippled 90nm FX55
    I don't mind. Glad to see more 1mb chips. Other than clockspeed and die size wise.... AMD has done nothing to improve A64's. In fact, they have enjoyed the perceived performance lead on intel and done everything to cripple them besides a few clockrate bumps. They want us all to buy 512kb cache chips and now semprons are getting mixed 256->128kb. Anyways... a nice claw from eons ago gives new cpus a run for their money. However small 2mb cache is for P4's, at least their improving thier cpu line. When this die switch is successful I want 1mb cache again... f' it give the FX more.
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  12. 03-04-2005, 12:36 AM #12
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    Id like to see how high this diego 4200+(multi locked 90nm fx55 basically) overclocks! This I want to see more than anything else.
    3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
    9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth!
    9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
    9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
    9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
    9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
    3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
    Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
    3dmark scores with older gpus
    Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551
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  13. 03-04-2005, 12:41 AM #13
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    love to see the improved mem controller in action i.e.

    4x 256MB @>DDR400 1T
    4x 512MB @ >DDR400 1T
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  14. 03-04-2005, 12:42 AM #14
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    Looks nice! I wonder, though, what's the stock performance of an FX-55 in SuperPi (I probably should know this...)?
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  15. 03-04-2005, 12:51 AM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikael
    Looks nice! I wonder, though, what's the stock performance of an FX-55 in SuperPi (I probably should know this...)?

    not sure but I hit 34s with my winny at only 2.4GHz so I really hope that 4200+ hits 30s at 2.6GHz cause of the cache. As for ondie controller, I hope this and Venice are capable of over 300fsb easy even with 2x512mb sticks, I can only hit 262 with my winny
    3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
    9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth!
    9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
    9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
    9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
    9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
    3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
    Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
    3dmark scores with older gpus
    Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551
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  16. 03-04-2005, 12:58 AM #16
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  17. 03-04-2005, 01:00 AM #17
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    Thanks, but we need something more than SuperPi results! I'm so eager to se if there will be any performance advantage compared to the older revisions. Something tells me that SuperPi isn't going to show much of these supposed advantages...
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  18. 03-04-2005, 01:06 AM #18
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    Here's a Newcastle 3500+ at 10x261MHz with 2x512MB of VX running 1:1 2-2-2-10-1T. Let's see how much of a difference tweaking your memory will do with the same CPU clocks. I'd also appreciate seeing a few other types of benching apps put to use as well.

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  19. 03-04-2005, 01:07 AM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikael
    Thanks, but we need something more than SuperPi results! I'm so eager to se if there will be any performance advantage compared to the older revisions. Something tells me that SuperPi isn't going to show much of these supposed advantages...
    Like...
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  20. 03-04-2005, 01:08 AM #20
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    who owns this diego cpu? why hasnt he overclocked it yet! thats the big thing everyone is waiting for, has amd's new process allowed for higher clocks vs. 130nm?


    "Like..."

    overclock the cpu as far as itll go and run a whole suite of benchmarks including 3dmark 2001
    3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
    9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth!
    9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
    9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
    9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
    9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
    3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
    Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
    3dmark scores with older gpus
    Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551
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  21. 03-04-2005, 01:14 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arseface
    Like...
    The SuperPI phenomenon is so widely spread that people seem to think it's the only performance measure that matters anymore!

    Well, I could list a few programs that I personally find more interesting:

    Hexus Pifast
    WinRAR
    ScienceMark
    Lame encoding
    Maybe even a run of PCMark04

    There's nothing wrong with SuperPi, but I don't think that it alone can be used to tell very much about a CPU. I guess I'll get the whole community on my back now...
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  22. 03-04-2005, 02:19 AM #22
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    Sorry - I didn't mean to sound like a tool!

    I just wondered what people thought were better CPU tests than super-pi, as it is the one thing I would have thought of immediately to test the CPU (rather than the system as a whole).


    But yeah - I really want to see how the venice/san-diego cores overclock! I've got a crappy clocking FX here sitting on phase change at only 3Ghz, and I'm looking at getting a 90nm FX55 if they clock as well as I'm hoping they will!
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  23. 03-04-2005, 03:15 AM #23
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    More input..more input!
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  24. 03-04-2005, 04:39 AM #24
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    present CPUZ is unable to distinguish its edition (the PR value to distinguish wrongly)
    sxs112, Just current BIOS version incorrectly calculates a model number, cpu-z copies it.
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  25. 03-04-2005, 05:07 AM #25
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    we want oc input a nice comparison alongside with a FX55 ClawHammer Vs. 4200+ SanDiego.
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