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    Qualcomm Atheros Snaps up Bigfoot Networks...

    For those that missed it, its been a pretty quiet announcement.

    http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...-networks.aspx

    Working on getting more info out of Qualcomm.
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    This deal vindicates Bigfoot and Killer products. Too bad we'll probably never SEE those products again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamtan2 View Post
    This deal vindicates Bigfoot and Killer products. Too bad we'll probably never SEE those products again.
    Oooooooooooooooooooooh. Sad day. Oh, a butterfly... *hums imperial march*
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    Well nVidia bought PhysX, and only then it took off, maybe the same will happen now with KillerNIC ? I know a third of ASUS motherboards use Atheros network chip, so it's a popular company.

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    If Qualcomm decides to sell Bigfoot's ICs by themselves at a reasonable cost, it's possible we'll see it become significant. The price premium just doesn't make sense most of the time when the hardware doesn't even perform all that great compared to say an Intel adapter. It's good, but not impressive good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ice_chill View Post
    Well nVidia bought PhysX, and only then it took off, maybe the same will happen now with KillerNIC ? I know a third of ASUS motherboards use Atheros network chip, so it's a popular company.
    Wait, physX took off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice_chill View Post
    Well nVidia bought PhysX, and only then it took off, maybe the same will happen now with KillerNIC ? I know a third of ASUS motherboards use Atheros network chip, so it's a popular company.
    Nothing is related between ageia and those cards .. Nvidia bough PhysX and have made it a software engine who was run on existing Nvidia card. This have remove the bigger problem of Ageia card who was peoples was not so interested to buy an additional hardware ( and not cheap ) for only a few games compatible ..

    This type of network cards are different... peoples buy Sata Pci express card when indeed they have allready SATA controller on their motherboard... the problem is for large public, their Marvell Lan is enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levish View Post
    Wait, physX took off?
    Its one of if not the most popular physics engine out there, so yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ View Post
    Its one of if not the most popular physics engine out there, so yeah.
    In hardware implementation terms which would be in context with this thread because talking about hardware acceleration implementation in games then no it has not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bamtan2 View Post
    This deal vindicates Bigfoot and Killer products. Too bad we'll probably never SEE those products again.
    the hardware in the killer nic was nothing special, the software was what got the gains if there were any


    Quote Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ View Post
    Its one of if not the most popular physics engine out there, so yeah.
    you mean is one of the more popular particle effects engines, i cannot think of a game that uses NV physX for physics that changes intractable in game items (there was the ghost recon but it failed badly and that was agea physX)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ice_chill View Post
    I know a third of ASUS motherboards use Atheros network chip, so it's a popular company.
    I thought ti was Gigabyte?

    I also thought Atheros had a ton of problems? At least in Minecraft they do. Half the people with an Atheros chipset cant even play Minecraft multiplayer. This could be a very good thing, or a very bad thing.
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    So does this mean if we purchase one of those Killer Nic addon cards would could find our selfs with an unsupported piece of hardware with no updates ?
    How does this effect the Giga MB's that have this on the motherboard ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeye View Post
    So does this mean if we purchase one of those Killer Nic addon cards would could find our selfs with an unsupported piece of hardware with no updates ?
    How does this effect the Giga MB's that have this on the motherboard ?
    The killer stuff is all based on atheros hardware with some impressive software/fimware tweaks. Atheros has been part of qualcomm for a while already so nothing will change really.

    FWIW the killer 1103 wireless-n card is an absolute screamer, performs far better than the intel 6300 at everything from file transfers to server pings, sometimes by a huge margin. Heck, even the 1102 can outrun the 6300.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Final8ty View Post
    In hardware implementation terms which would be in context with this thread because talking about hardware acceleration implementation in games then no it has not.
    That matters why? People like to bash Nvidia any chance that they get. I just wanted to point out that these same people are playing tons of games that use physx. Yes, not gpu accelerated physx but if the option were available on the consoles I would imagine that it would be taken advantage of more. Any other engine or implementation has the hell of a competitor.

    To say that physx was a bad buy for Nvidia or is non-existent is just laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeye View Post
    So does this mean if we purchase one of those Killer Nic addon cards would could find our selfs with an unsupported piece of hardware with no updates ?
    How does this effect the Giga MB's that have this on the motherboard ?
    Wait there are updates to the Bigfoot NIC on the mobos? LOL

    I think only the G1 X58 and the R3EBE and the new Sniper 2 have it onboard, its a very few number of boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ View Post
    That matters why? People like to bash Nvidia any chance that they get. I just wanted to point out that these same people are playing tons of games that use physx. Yes, not gpu accelerated physx but if the option were available on the consoles I would imagine that it would be taken advantage of more. Any other engine or implementation has the hell of a competitor.

    To say that physx was a bad buy for Nvidia or is non-existent is just laughable.
    Software physx was widely used anyway so it makes no odds & no one said its non existent because everyone knows about Software physx being used allot so when people talk about physx being a failure its about the acceleration aspect & plus the context of this thread makes that obvious.

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    I remember Mirror Edge game that uses physics for how curtains move in the wind and how glass shatter. With PhysX enabled, and no nVidia GPU it will drop below 10 fps on a Quadcore, but with a GTX280 it will run at around 35 fps, so it does work and does give acceleration, and it's not a failure.

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    People are so critical because they all know perfectly well that those curtains and glass could easily be done on the spare cores of that quad, NV aren`t fooling anyone for a minute. Anyway, OT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Final8ty View Post
    Software physx was widely used anyway so it makes no odds & no one said its non existent because everyone knows about Software physx being used allot so when people talk about physx being a failure its about the acceleration aspect & plus the context of this thread makes that obvious.
    How do you compare buying Bigfoot networks with buying Ageia without taking the other aspects of physx into account? Like I said comparing the two is laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice_chill View Post
    I remember Mirror Edge game that uses physics for how curtains move in the wind and how glass shatter. With PhysX enabled, and no nVidia GPU it will drop below 10 fps on a Quadcore, but with a GTX280 it will run at around 35 fps, so it does work and does give acceleration, and it's not a failure.
    I remember a few games & no one said it didn't work & there is no reason to even think of such a suggestion, the point is nVidia GPU PhysX is a failure because its not used for game world physical altering physics & is only used for cosmetics & in not many titles at all for the amount of time its been out.

    The amount of really good games to have even cosmetics nVidia GPU PhysX can be counted on one hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ View Post
    How do you compare buying Bigfoot networks with buying Ageia without taking the other aspects of physx into account? Like I said comparing the two is laughable.
    Now you have moved to the classic of hair splitting semantics when you know full well what the points was & has been answered already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3NZ0 View Post
    FWIW the killer 1103 wireless-n card is an absolute screamer, performs far better than the intel 6300 at everything from file transfers to server pings, sometimes by a huge margin. Heck, even the 1102 can outrun the 6300.
    How do you test that ? I've been running an onboard Killer Nic card on a G1 Sniper board and I notice zero to nothing in Ping when playing online games in comparison to a similar specced X58 board with Intel NIC onboard... want to know how wireless goes with him...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeghoofd View Post
    How do you test that ? I've been running an onboard Killer Nic card on a G1 Sniper board and I notice zero to nothing in Ping when playing online games in comparison to a similar specced X58 board with Intel nic...
    Read anandtech's review of wireless cards.

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    I want to know how 3NZO tested it... not how I should test it...




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    Quote Originally Posted by sin0822 View Post
    Wait there are updates to the Bigfoot NIC on the mobos? LOL

    I think only the G1 X58 and the R3EBE and the new Sniper 2 have it onboard, its a very few number of boards.
    I ment software Sin

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