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    Quote Originally Posted by wicktron
    I was just reading reviews on the Speed Premiums and it seems like they are hitting 240 2.5-3-3-x at 2.8v... Your 3.4v seems ridiculously high
    About that "ridiculous high vdimm": OCZ VX (not drawing any parallels here as probably there's way more behind VX than only finding the "right" chips) also need 3.2V to do 2-2-2 at 200fsb.
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    This is twinmos chips ,ch5 or tccd?
    Sorry if my english is bad : I'm French

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    Quote Originally Posted by drunkenmaster
    hand picked = cost goes up, a lot, when its buy>attach ic's to pcb>throw out the door , its cheap, when you test them it increases cost a shedload.

    has anyone actually tried 2x512 bh-5 on a newer ath 64 939 board with similar voltages to the VX? i mean, i could hit 245Mhz with mine with 3.3v and i didn't want to voltmod. might have a play with a board, my booster and some bh05 before i sell it all.

    could be just my bh5 (or board)but with 3.5v i can get 245 2-2-2-5 pretty unstable

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    is this the same stuff even though it's a 1gig stick?
    http://www.memoryx.net/xdc1024.html

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    I MAY HAVE TO PICK UP A COUPLE see how the work out.
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    Why buy VX, isn't it more expensive than TCCD and pretty much the same performance
    plus requires loads of voltage through it just to reach 2-2-2-5 at 200mhz?

    It's like, "oh, we couldn't make any better ram so we are going to pump 50% more voltage into it and beat the living crap out of it so it runs decent" but well, I guess in these post-Winbond days that is the only alternative.

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    I am suppose to buy the...

    Speed Premiums

    or

    the normal stuff

    help

    EDIT: seems that the normal ones have M-tec's and the Premiums have Twinmos branded chips...this has been mentioned (i think)

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    MrQ3W, I VX is better than TCCD for people who want 2-2-2-5 timings with 512MB modules at decent speeds (250+). TCCD will get higher overall speeds, for sure, but at much higher latencies. Why do you think people still have BH-5? Voltage doesn't matter as long as a product can perform. This is Xtreme Systems, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Playful_Buffalo
    I am suppose to buy the...

    Speed Premiums

    or

    the normal stuff

    help

    EDIT: seems that the normal ones have M-tec's and the Premiums have Twinmos branded chips...this has been mentioned (i think)
    i must know the answer soon (sorry bout the spamming though )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefoxx
    @transam The Twinmos Speed Premium doesn't have the VX Chips, Alex, a Twinmos employe said that, he also said, that later Twinmos Speed Premium will have them, but not the current ones.. Just the cheap Twinmos/M.tec have 'em.
    It looks like you want to order the M.tec ones according to Firefoxx.

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    man after reading this thread its gotten to me too...Im with you playful the SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME!!! lol
    but which ones??? :/
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    i dont want to buy the m-tec ones....its m-tec :cry:

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    Ordered TwinMOS 256MB w/ Winbond from Komplett, so cheap I don't care if I fry it in 2 hours :O

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    dirt cheap

    playbuffalo pick the speed premium ......

    my instinct

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    I doubt vx chips are hand picked. Its too cheap to be hand picked

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    Pics of TwinMOS/mTec WINBOND UTT


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    (c) techpowerup.com

    Winbond UTT chips belong to the cheapest chips -> Every OEM, LOW COST Ram could be have Winbond UTT. OCZ select the good chips for VX and the "bad" for High Perf rev3.
    Winbond UTT could be on TwinMOS Speed Premium, TwinMOS/Mtec, TwinMOS/TwinMOS, Kingston values cl2,5, corsair vaule select, Infineon third

    i've tested twinmos/mtec and ocz highperf rev3. The Twinmos reached about 265



    a friend of mine posted that screen already...
    some new:
    nice timings


    Some Threads on hwl.de
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    here some kingston with winbond utt
    Last edited by //mAr; 01-01-2005 at 09:21 AM.

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    That is insane from a 120 euro stick!

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    Nice results and information mar....unfortunatly for me - the time has come in which i now would feel guilty asking my dad to buy these for me. always happens if i wait to long

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    Uhh why don't you get a job and buy them yourself instead?

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    my age does not permit

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    I've got a stick of twinmos 2700 which I bought about 2 years ago. It will do 240 @ 2,2,2,11 on 3.4v on my DFI infinity. The code on the chips says TMD7608F8Ε60D, which is very similar to the code on the new chips (the only difference is the 6ns speed rating at the end of the code, compared to the 5ns on these new chips) They also have the dimple things that winbond chips have. I don't know if they are the same chips as the ones on this new twinmos, but they perform very similar.

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    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...218-404&depa=1

    I'll have the speed premium on Monday. too soon to draw conclusions based on all these results. The cheaper ones with mtec may be better, so just wait for my results before ordering.

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    but not every stick of speed premium is winbond utt ...
    here's a test ... with no-highvoltage chips
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/T.../SpeedPremium/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playful_Buffalo
    my age does not permit
    How old are you then, 12? because where I live there are 14-15 year olds already working for extra cash in their sparetime.

    Quote Originally Posted by persivore
    I've got a stick of twinmos 2700 which I bought about 2 years ago. It will do 240 @ 2,2,2,11 on 3.4v on my DFI infinity. The code on the chips says TMD7608F8Ε60D, which is very similar to the code on the new chips (the only difference is the 6ns speed rating at the end of the code, compared to the 5ns on these new chips) They also have the dimple things that winbond chips have. I don't know if they are the same chips as the ones on this new twinmos, but they perform very similar.
    Sounds like BH-6 to me.

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