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    Thumbs up 35K on air, no need for more.

    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8308616

    win 2000 SP-4
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    BH-5 @ 2-2-2-5 @ 3.7v - 280 fsb.
    FX-55 @ 2800 mhz.
    card (XT-PE) clocked at 565/612.
    only gained 300 points with this BH-5, GSkill did 285 @ 2.5-3-3-5.
    anyone could explain ?

    how can I improve my score to get 35K ?

    thx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer
    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8308616

    win 2000 SP-4
    ACPI MPC.
    BH-5 @ 2-2-2-5 @ 3.7v - 280 fsb.
    FX-55 @ 2800 mhz.
    only gained 300 points with this BH-5, GSkill did 285 @ 2.5-3-3-5.
    anyone could explain ?

    how can I improve my score to get 35K ?

    thx.
    Use codered's A64 tweaker program ?

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    you don't mention what your card is clocked at ?

    i'm not that far behind your score considering only with 3700+ @ 2710mhz single channel mem 2x 256MB KHX3200K2/512 BH-5 @ 271mhz 2-2-2-6 at 3.58v vdimm
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    nope, not yet.
    but don't think the ram can take it @ 280 fsb.
    ideal settings with the tweaker ?

    I tried more volts (3.8) for higher fsb,but windows goes crazy at the same speeds.

    card clocked at 565/612.

    will update first post.

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    30-35mhz more on your card's core would do it i guess
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    I know, only this card doesn't overclock to good on stock volts with ATI Silencer 4.
    best was 575 in cold weather
    I got a 80w pelt with DD GPU block, so 600 would do it.

    next week I'll use the prometeia, but I want to get 35K on air

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    try Glacialtech Northpole 1000 yet ?

    Pics http://www.hardwareoc.hu/index.php/p...y/108/z/6.html

    http://www.dinoxpc.com/Tests/DISSIPA...hPole/pag6.asp

    http://www.hardwareoc.hu/index.php/p.../108/z/10.html

    Glacialtech Northpole 1000 = 55C
    Zalman ZM80D-HP = 58C
    ATI Silencer 4 = 66C
    Coolmaster Coolviva = 70C



    or try my old method for air with zalman fan bracket and 480cfm



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer
    nope, not yet.
    but don't think the ram can take it @ 280 fsb.
    ideal settings with the tweaker ?

    I tried more volts (3.8) for higher fsb,but windows goes crazy at the same speeds.

    card clocked at 565/612.

    will update first post.
    For Tweaker try

    Trp=2
    Twr=2

    and if stable then go to

    Twtr=1
    Trtw=1

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    Pixie dust maybe?

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    Nice score w/ aircooling

    RAM really at 280 2-2-2-5?

    I'm getting a bit higher lobbys w/ lower CPU clock and 252FSB 1:1 2-2-2-5 => link

    might be a good idea to give A64Tweaker a go

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    thx.
    I'm sure it's on 280 1T.

    proof :

    on 3.6v with Booster.

    best ram I ever had
    now you know why I think it's strange that my score is "low".
    had a 195 today, but it freezed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer
    thx.
    I'm sure it's on 280 1T.

    proof :

    on 3.6v with Booster.

    best ram I ever had
    now you know why I think it's strange that my score is "low".
    had a 195 today, but it freezed....
    I'll run pifast tonight at 233x12 2-5-2-2 on the FX55 for comparison, I think your pifast might be low as well ??

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    indeed, I noticed it too.

    this is with Gskill PC4400 :


    had to do a reinstall though, maybe something went wrong there.
    bios version is 1.37b on MSI Neo 2.
    I use 2 HDD's for my OS, one on IDE, one on SATA.

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    Here's a comparison to my first 35K run with the FX-55 and X800XT-PE.

    - You beat me pretty bad in the lobby tests, but that must be due to your RAM. I'm running Ballistix @ 3-3-3-6 265.

    - You beat me pretty good in CH, could that be from the ACPI tweak?

    Good Job though, you'll 35K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer
    indeed, I noticed it too.

    this is with Gskill PC4400 :


    had to do a reinstall though, maybe something went wrong there.
    bios version is 1.37b on MSI Neo 2.
    I use 2 HDD's for my OS, one on IDE, one on SATA.
    That is interesting, that does look more like it.

    at 280x10 2-5-2-2 what is your unbuffered Sandra ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost_Bite
    - You beat me pretty good in CH, could that be from the ACPI tweak?

    Good Job though, you'll 35K.
    thx.
    ACPI gives me about 700 points extra there.

    no sandra scores yet, if I boot at 280x10, windows doesn't load

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    thx, mail send.

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    yea your score does seem a little low if Macci and Jason are beating that by over 1k. I can see your car low should be a bit higher but your doing very poorly in both dragons, especially drag low. id say 35.5k would be a goal you could shoot for all air
    3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
    9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth!

    9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
    9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
    9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
    9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
    3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
    Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
    3dmark scores with older gpus
    Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551

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    I'm already pleased with the result thx to Jason :
    35325

    A64 tweaker did the trick.

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    way to go and it wasnt just a64 tweaker, you got a good run too. even your nature went up, perhaps you found a few more MHz gpu clocks as well. your still below Macci because Macci's nature is like 319 and thats where the extra 700 come from. His gpu on air scores in nature what most people need phase change to do, its that amazing! but anyway 35k for all air cooling is still just amazing. when fx57 and r520 come out, we could start seeing the first 40k air cooled scores
    3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
    9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth!

    9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
    9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
    9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
    9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
    3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
    Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
    3dmark scores with older gpus
    Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551

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    indeed, added some mhz to the core too

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    Yes, AMD64 tweaker does the trick all the time.

    I ran the tweaker tonight at 2800 (234x12) and got the following ( warning 56k users )

    http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/28001.JPG
    http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/28002.JPG
    http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/28003.JPG
    http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/28004.JPG
    http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/28005.JPG
    http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/28006.JPG

    best = 42.64s

    moved to 255x11 at 2-5-2-2 but increased other latency in A64

    http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/28007.JPG ( 42.97s)
    http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/28008.JPG
    http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/28010.JPG
    http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/28011.JPG

    best = 42.19s

    So 234x12 Code red tweaked is better than 255x11 out of the box ...


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    thx again for the tip

    nice you made some tests to prove it works great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamer
    thx again for the tip

    nice you made some tests to prove it works great.
    I'm just hanging around waiting for the ambient temps in the Uk to go below 0C

    Sadly all these phase change guys are adding heat and peculiar chemicals to the air and so coconuts are growing in London nowadays

    heh LOL



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