OCZ VX, Best Memory made since BH5!!

[OPPAINTER]

I just started playing with my new OCZ VX memory, looks great so far.

This stuff is the memory to replace BH-5,, finnally
Made for Overclockers by Overclockers!!

Great job OCZ!!

OPP

[Orker]

Very nice oc.. should have posted this in the official vx results thread though

what voltage was that ? and is it memtest #5 stable?

[OPPAINTER]

Very nice oc.. should have posted this in the official vx results thread though

I'm makeing a stand alone statement here

OPP

[bachus_anonym]

glad you like it, OPP

i'll be testing one of those kits very soon, maybe this weekend...
hopefully it's really capable and extends BH-5 as i haven't seen ABSOLUTELY stable e.g. 260x10 6-2-2-2.0 1T from any 2x512MB of BH-5 in Dual Channel and AMD platform (NF2 or NF3).

[Orker]

I'm makeing a stand alone statement here

OPP

Its very good ram isnt it

Best ram ive ever owned

btw can you please answer my questions from before

[ArcTan]

"Best Memory made since BH5"

so still not as good as BH5

[MaxxxRacer]

arctan.. the antagonist... lol... I would say that opp endorsing it would increase sales, but the stuff is flying off the shelves so fast i bet ocz's heads are spinning..

[blinky]

i havent seen it scale high like bh5 does tho

if it gets 270 2-2-2-5 3d benchable ill jump for it

[Alexandrus]

OPP, what voltage are you using for those VX ?

[ojdr2001]

very nice for 1 GB...

What board and voltage please?

[halcyon]

Second that. Board and voltage

[GomerPyle]

Would like to test those OCZ

Great results Opp.

[_Eduard_]

Didn't OCZ buy the rights of winbond to make BH-4? That's what these chips are aren't they?

[DaWaN]

Didn't OCZ buy the rights of winbond to make BH-4? That's what these chips are aren't they?

OCZ is not telling what these chips are, but i don't think these are BH-4, because they aren't as good as BH-5

[musk]

I'm makeing a stand alone statement here

OPP

Respect!

[reject]

i still havent seen them in aust

[LilGator]

why is everyone saying these aren't as good as BH-5 ?

It seems like every pair of these are smacking 250 MHz 2-2-2, with a 2x512MB kit no prob.

BH-5 never consistently did that. Espescially with 2x512MB.

[alexio]

Well, I think the 2*512mb pairs of OCZ VX might be better overclockable then the BH-5 pairs of 2*512mb

The difference between OCZ VX and BH-5 is more in the fact that some 256mb BH-5 sticks have done 300mhz 2-2-2-5 and there is no way OCZ VX can beat that.
Maybe the OCZ will clock a bit higher with the new ATI chipset, how knows what will happen?

I'm thinking of buying a 2*512mb pair of OCZ VX for my new system but I'm not really sure if that would help allot sind I allready have some Corsair XMS PRO PC4000 that can do 260mhz at 2.5-3-3-7

Well if my new system wil be an FX-53 or FX-55 I think I might just by a pair of OCZ VX but if my new system is going to be a Pentium-M Dothan I'll stick with my XMS.

[OPPAINTER]

The problem these days is if you don't use 1gig and only have 512Mb like BH-5 in most cases, you lose out on performance. The 1gig gives you 2-way interleave, 2 gigs will give you 4-way interleave. This is on S939 motherboards anyway.
So haveing 1 gig or higher is in if you can use aggressive timings,, so now you have VX

OPP

[OPPAINTER]

i want some VX.

Any Overclocker should
I only played with the stuff for an hour, I think we'll see guys running 3D into the 270s on this mem. I'm sure this will be the next memory we'll see top 3D2001 users useing.

OPP

[alexio]

I can get them for 245 Dollar without shipping, do you guys think thats cheap?
Or do you guys know a store wich sells them for less?

[OPPAINTER]

Very nice oc.. should have posted this in the official vx results thread though

what voltage was that ? and is it memtest #5 stable?

I've never run mem test in my life, no need. If my mem can run 2001 lobby tests I'm a happy camper.

As far as voltage, 3.65V idle, Sandra bench drops it to about 3.45V, 2001 lobby tests drop it around 3.52V.

OPP

[OPPAINTER]

Maybe this wil lift you up to 43K,

My next scores should do that,,, if I ever get my new PCI-E mobos and a Graphics Card

OPP

[HermS]

So haveing 1 gig or higher is in if you can use aggressive timings,, so now you have VX

Thats nothing but good news! :banana4: Its great being able to score massivley in 3dmark with just 512Mb or less but we all know that most current games run pretty bad with anything less than a gig of ram regardless of clock speeds etc. It's good to know that the gap between overclocked gaming rigs and purely overclocking systems is being closed finally. Mind you I bet it's not long before 1 gig isnt enough to game with either

[Dissolved]

that is great new's i hope there will be a bigger supply of them than the last batches of mem..seemed to be limited supply.

Are you sick again or something?



-Opp never ran MEMTEST before? Thats a shock..

[mrlobber]

It seems like every pair of these are smacking 250 MHz 2-2-2, with a 2x512MB kit no prob.

BH-5 never consistently did that. Espescially with 2x512MB.

Does anybody have an explanation, why BH-5's in 2x256 config can run up to 300 fsb with enough volts while in 2x512 config they lose out to the VX?

[OPPAINTER]

that is great new's i hope there will be a bigger supply of them than the last batches of mem..seemed to be limited supply.

Thats a good point. I hope they don't discontinue this stuff. Gunna have to get the inside scoop on that, may have to stock up if nessasary.

OPP

[funkflix]

Singlesided vs. Doublesided! (afaik that is the problem)

If they run with 260 2.0-2-2-5 1T i will get a pair of these, tahts nice for
gaming and when i bench i will stick in my BH5s!

[cantankerous]

I hear ya. 260 is my goal too. 260 X 10 would be sick with all timings tightened via A64 tweaker. Would be a HUGE jump over my current Mobile XP system.

[althes]

Not bad at all opp.

[Playful_Buffalo]

Thats a good point. I hope they don't discontinue this stuff. Gunna have to get the inside scoop on that, may have to stock up if nessasary.

OPP

do you think it is possible for OCZ to run a product like this long term?

[OPPAINTER]

do you think it is possible for OCZ to run a product like this long term?

I have no Idea. Maybe they will stop by and comment on this.

OPP

[charlie]

Sweet stuff. OCZ has made some nice products the last few months... the Plat R2 (tccd), the VX and one of the most understated is the DDR2 that runs like 300 at 3-2-2-x

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[conrad.maranan]

Thats a good point. I hope they don't discontinue this stuff. Gunna have to get the inside scoop on that, may have to stock up if nessasary.

OPP

I plan on buying a few more kits as well. And I'm glad to see that you're enjoying your new memory.

[xviz]

ocz said in the VX release thread that the product woulnt be discontinue like the EB

[p4z1f1st]

ok, let's say, someone doesn't care on tight timings, what they can do with 2.5-3-3-10-1T-timings for example?

[blinky]

ok, let's say, someone doesn't care on tight timings, what they can do with 2.5-3-3-10-1T-timings for example?

this ram doesnt do any better with loose timings over tight ones.... so u might as well run tight ones

[conrad.maranan]

blinky's right. I tried to loosen things up a bit and all I get are errors, regardless of the frequency I'm running them at. VX was made for 2-2-2 timings on the A64 platform.

[ryanpgroovy]

The reason that any ram OC's higher in 256 x 2 over 512 x 2 is that there are fewer banks to address.

It also the same reason a single unit (usualy) ocs faster that 2 , the fewer banks the less stress on the memory controller. I posted a detailed explionation of this a year ago lol .

:p

[charlie]

I checked the price on VX, frankly I was expecting an outrageous price (like that killer DDR2 3-2-2 stuff @ $440) but was a bit surprised to see it at about $250....
GJ, OCZ!

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[hollywood]

I checked the price on VX, frankly I was expecting an outrageous price (like that killer DDR2 3-2-2 stuff @ $440) but was a bit surprised to see it at about $250....
GJ, OCZ!

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Where can I get some??????

[texuspete00]

Wow, they are that cheap? That changes everything. OCZ's flavor of the month is usually more.

[conrad.maranan]

Where can I get some??????

After the thousands of posts and numerous threads on the VX, it puzzles me that you wouldn't know where to purchase a set. Fry's Electronics has 'em. mWave has them as well. And the list goes on...

[xgman]

Anyone know about what the crossover point is where performance of 2.5-3-3-7 with say tccd chips would equal VX at 2-2-2-7? So in other words, how high an htt would 2.5-3-3-7 ram have to run to equal 250 or 260htt at 2-2-2-7 if cpu speed and all else was equal? This assumes the paltform is A64.

[mrlobber]

The reason that any ram OC's higher in 256 x 2 over 512 x 2 is that there are fewer banks to address.

It also the same reason a single unit (usualy) ocs faster that 2 , the fewer banks the less stress on the memory controller. I posted a detailed explionation of this a year ago lol .

:p

Ryan, I think you missed the point or I didn't explain it properly which seems a more probable reason every time I reread my post . Actually, the essential question behind it all I asked was, why 2x512MB of VX oc's higher than BH-5 at tight timings. Is the simple answer that the chips used on VX are superior over BH-5? If yes, does that imply that if OCZ made a 2x256 MB kit of VX, that one would scream up to 300mhz DDR speeds much more easily than 2x256 BH-5 did provided that the memory controllers and mobos would be able to keep up with that?

[mcnbns]

If the difference between 2x256 and 2x512 of VX is the same as 2x256 and 2x512 of BH-5/6, then that would be awesome. Somehow, I don't think that will be the case.

[ryanpgroovy]

gotcha

[mcnbns]

Does that "gotcha" mean 2x256 VX would rock? If so, is there any chance OCZ would release the VX line in 256MB modules?

[ryanpgroovy]

oh I was responding to lobber ,

256mb VX are bound to overclock much better than 512mb VX , and I have no clue if/when we plan to start making them .

[Rabbi_NZ]

Posted these elsewhere but guys are asking "will these do 270 2-2-2 3D", "Why don't these scale much past 260 2-2-2 like BH did", "what's the fuss bout, these are no better than BH"....

OPP, hope ya dont mind me posting a few screenies here to answer those questions

My highest screeny with ~3.35vDimm 1x512 VX
My highest SuperPI 32MB with ~3.35vDimm 2x512mb VX
My highest 3Dmark01 with ~3.35v 1x512mb VX

I have a feeling all our VX modules will run a fair bit higher once AMD release CPUs with better memory controllers too

[Tony]

Posted these elsewhere but guys are asking "will these do 270 2-2-2 3D", "Why don't these scale much past 260 2-2-2 like BH did", "what's the fuss bout, these are no better than BH"....

OPP, hope ya dont mind me posting a few screenies here to answer those questions

My highest screeny with ~3.35vDimm 1x512 VX
My highest SuperPI 32MB with ~3.35vDimm 2x512mb VX
My highest 3Dmark01 with ~3.35v 1x512mb VX

I have a feeling all our VX modules will run a fair bit higher once AMD release CPUs with better memory controllers too

I have a feeling you are correct m8, a LOT has to do with the memory controller

[DoGMaN]

I gotta get me some :o that is just too sweet!

[NapalmV5]

The problem these days is if you don't use 1gig and only have 512Mb like BH-5 in most cases, you lose out on performance. The 1gig gives you 2-way interleave, 2 gigs will give you 4-way interleave. This is on S939 motherboards anyway.
So haveing 1 gig or higher is in if you can use aggressive timings,, so now you have VX

OPP

So 4-way interleave doesn't work on 512/1024 MB ?

Man, there's always something new about A64/Mobos.

[NoX]

Did you guys at OCZ perform some testing on Intel platforms? I can't find anybody with a P4 who tried this mem and I don't understand why. Did I miss something?
Also how does the VX compare to the EBs at the same timings? I.e. both at DDR500 at 3-2-2-5. Would the "Enhanced Bandwidth" make a difference?
In the end, I have to go to Fry's tonight and I want to know if with my rig it's worth to give the VX a try.

Thanks!

[Micutzu]

Intels do not benefit that much from the tight timings, TCCD gives better results. There's really no point in using 260Mhz 2-2-2 when 300Mhz+ 3-4-4 is faster and usually needs under 3.0V to run.

[cuddles]

It's mostly made for A64 systems. Those with Intels don't seem to get as good results, it performs like any other ram from what I've seen on Intel.

[quicksilverXP]

Would it be faster on an A64 to run memory at 300Mhz at 2.5-4-4-8 (or sometimes 3-3-7) or to run these VX on a divider? I'm contemplating on switching from my TCCDs.... but I know for sure these can't hit 300 HTT 1:1... and I only have an Athlon64 3000+ with the 9 multi.

[KuRi]

Quick tests, 100% stable:

http://koti.mbnet.fi/rnm/discipline/3200VX/

[NoX]

There's really no point in using 260Mhz 2-2-2 when 300Mhz+ 3-4-4 is faster and usually needs under 3.0V to run.

I would agree with you if I had a cpu that could run at 300Mhz FSB.

[Grov]

Yeah the price ain't to bad on em, cheaper than the 3200EB TCCD or whatever it is, well here in the UK anyways.

Sold my Corsair C2PT 2x512mb for 110quid, got these for 190quid, so not to bad there. Big upgrade.

Gotta get a booster though.