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    Faking Benchmarks, The Good Benchmark List, How To Spot Cheats and More...

    This post has a few purposes.

    1. to show people that even the most reliable cheat free benchmarks, aren't perfect, or cheat free.

    2. to create a list of known benchmarks that are either cheat free, or extremely tough to cheat on.

    3. to expose Cheat methods, and to expose methods to stump a faker.

    What is not to be talked about her, is HOW to fake a benchmark.
    Links to programs that allow you to fake benchmarks.
    Any Method, or Hint at how to fake a benchmark.
    XS is not a Place for trading cheat secrets or a place that will allow free information about how to fake a benchmark.

    If you know of any method for Cheating on a benchmark... Then Please, PM me, Saaya, Karnivore or another Mod here.
    We are trying to create a definate way to verify Overclocks, Benchmarks, and other things that would be benificial to overclockers in General.

    Any Person Talking, or Attempting To Share Cheat Programs, Or Information On How To Cheat On a Benchmark, will have thier Post Deleted immediatly, with a warning from me, or any other mod, that sees the post first.
    No Mod of XS likes to hand out warnings or anything more, unless absolutly necessary, but given the nature of this Post, we must be strong on this.
    You can say "well I have freedom of speech..."
    I will argue with you...
    one cannot walk into a movie theater, scream "FIRE", then walk out and claim freedom of speech.
    so don't argue on this, you wanna cheat on benchmark... go somewhere else.

    we are here to try an inform any and all members willing to listen, on ways to spot fake benchmarks, to bust cheat programs and methods, and to try to create a list of Benchmarks, CPU programs, or anything else that can be used as a tool for overclockers....

    Current Methods I know of cheating on benchmarks.

    PSNulling.
    Wire Frame Hacks.
    Pause Programs.
    Windows Slow Motion Programs.
    Bios Cheating.

    PS-Nulling seems to be limited to a few Nvidia Drivers, and are easy to spot usually, cause they give unusually high results, by lowing the pixel shaders to the lowest possible.
    Unfortunatly-one can install a PS null driver, uninstall it, install a driver over it, then still have the PS Null on by default.
    So driver versions, mean little to nothing for verifying a PS-Nulled Cheat Benchmark.

    fortunatly, overclockers seem to be extremely adept at spotting PSNull cheated benchmarks, and its barely a issue here at XS.

    Wire frame hacks are exactly as it sounds....
    they make 3d benchmarks run with not graphics, just a wire frame of what they should be.
    these benchmarks are usually limited to very old videocards, and if used on a modern card, the results are so ridiculous, that you'd have to a fool to not be able to spot them.
    These are of little to no risk to XS and Benchmarks just cause they are so damn hard to fake in a reasonable way. unless you wanna be the first person to try and pass a 1,000,000 point 3dmark score as legit...

    Pause Programs...
    these are the first of a new gen of cheat programs.
    I know 2 so far.
    1 seems to have been removed from google.
    the other is aparantly old, and meant for something completly different.
    (DO NOT TRY TO FIND IT< OR LINK TO IT HERE)
    these programs, are exactly as they sound...
    they allow you to "pause" windows doing anything you want.
    which for a benchmark like 3dmark, it mean you can just pause, and watch your frames go as high as you want, unpause it... and then get what looks like a real score.

    these are fairly easy to spot so far.
    they look like super bugged scores for 3dmark2003 and 2005.
    it doesn't work on 3dmark2001se.
    I will explain why soon...
    on aquamark 3. these cheat programs, look completly undetectable.
    thats not a good thing....
    they are also completly useless for sisoftsandra, pi benchmarks and such.
    it's biggest advantage comes from if you looking for super bugged scores.

    This next cheat method, is by far the worst of the lot.
    it effects 90% of benchmarks I know of, and CPUZ, WCPUID, Sisoft sandra, and all forms of 3d benchmarks are vulnerable to it... except 3dmark2001se... again, I will explain that soon.
    this Cheat method, works by slowing windows down to "slow motion".
    meaning everything, runs in slow motion.

    all game benchmarks-every single game benchmark you can name, is vulernable to this. from Quake3 to Doom3... they can all be cheated on with this cheat method to give nice high faked benchmarks.

    Super PI is extremely vulnerable to slow motion cheating, in which you can get world records in a second if you want.

    CPUZ, WCPUID, CBI and Crystal CPUID are all extremly vulnerable to these cheat methods, and can be used to fake any OC... even fooling the Checksum in CPUZ to look 100% legit.

    Aquamark3 is completly vulnerable to this benchmark.
    Aquamark3 seems to run, by counting the amount of time it takes your computer to render the 5203 frames of the benchmark, then divides it by the time it took, or something like this.
    by slowing down windows, it makes the benchmark think the benchmark took alot less time then it really did to complete. so it's extremely easy to fake a benchmark with this cheat method.
    I know of no way to fix this...

    3dmark2003 and 2005, are both EXTREMELY Vulnerable to this cheat method as well, and appear to have No Protection for this kinda cheating.

    what happens in 3dmark 2003 and 2005, is your videocard still renders the same amount of frames per second, just like normal, but the benchmark takes much longer to complete.

    so if you card is doing say 30 frames per second, and the benchmark is 1 minute long... thats 108,000 frames a minute.
    by slowing down windows to say half speed.
    it will still render 30 frames per second, but with the benchmark going in slow motion, or in this case, half motion, it will then render 216,000 frames, in that same slowed down 1 minute.

    neither 3dmark 2003 or 2005 have any sort of protection against this kinda cheating.

    oddly enough, only 3dmark2001se has any sort of protection against this kinda cheating... again, I will explain soon, when I get to my part about programs and benchmarks that can still be considerd atleast mostly reliable or cheat free.

    lastly are Bios Cheats.
    Bios Cheats are something I only heard of recently....
    kinda pathetic cheat method really.
    but still didn't bring a smile to my face when I heard about it.

    bios cheats are cheats, where say you want to take the ti 4200 record.
    some people resort to buying ti-4600's. erasing the bios, and installing a Ti 4200 bios on it.
    it gives a severe unfair advantage to the cheats, and is basically for only someone really desperate to take a record in some catagory.
    I know of no way we or anyone could verify a cards bios...
    so basically-theres nothing we can do about it.
    it's just something you gotta live with, when competing in odd catagories.

    below I am gonna show you a series of benchmarks I have been able to cheat on with the various cheat methods I have learned recently.
    every single one of these are faked.
    not real in any sense.
    but theres no photoshop used to alter the results.
    the pictures have a big "FAKE" written on them, and are edited alittle to remove any trace as to the program used....cause like I said, this post isn't about showing you how to cheat.
    just to show you... it can be done.

    then to show you programs that are still good and solid for being cheatfree... atleast for the moment.
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