ultimate S939 mainboard guide - tweaking guide ,known bugs, and fixes

[hollywood]

who here with an agp 9800pro, 9800xt, 6800gt, x800pro, etc is gonna spend another $400+ just for pci-e

I will...I'll just return my "old" 6800 Ultra to CompUSA and pay the difference for the next gen NV48 PCIe card.

Gotta love the trade up warranty at CompUSA.

[HKPolice]

I will...I'll just return my "old" 6800 Ultra to CompUSA and pay the difference for the next gen NV48 PCIe card.

Gotta love the trade up warranty at CompUSA.

Most don't have that luxury though... or the money

[blinky]

who here with an agp 9800pro, 9800xt, 6800gt, x800pro, etc is gonna spend another $400+ just for pci-e

x700xt will be $200 or so, 6600GT PCIe should be the same price


dont assume

[Geforce4ti4200]

x700xt will be $200 or so, 6600GT PCIe should be the same price


dont assume

and what good will this be for someone with a 9800xt, 6800gt, x800pro?

[rick_fx]

Absolutely N-O-N-E at all

[Geforce4ti4200]

Thats why long live agp!!!!!!!!!

[rick_fx]

I just dont get the hype about pci-e. Most tests show that agp is always as fast or sometimes faster than pci-e. Why dont they bring out agp SLI?

[tricknasty]

ya i just purchased a 6800 gt im sure not getting a pci-e card for a long time

[Kane]

Thanx for all the suggestions. I tweaked everything forth and back yesterday and ended up with a Prime Stabel machine @ 2.55GHz on the 4000+. But I can use it @ 2.6GHz aswell, without any problems (except in prime) I had the memory underclocked all I could when I tested. When I found out where the CPU was stabel, I just upped the memory, and it's still stable. I'm now running it 260x10 1:1 with the RAM Geil Ultra X @ 260 CL.2.5 -3 -3 -10 1t. Anyways, I'm running 1.65v through the CPU. It doesn't like more then that. Probably because it gets to hot. Anyway, noise is also a issue for me, so I'm happy here. A quiet machine, that still kicks butt. And finally it's stable. I'm sure the memory can go even tighter, but my Booster has gone FUBAR. It doesn't react when I turn the POT. So 2.85v is all I can give the Memory. Since my computer now is working (with a little help from you guys) I have another question. Has anyone else noticed that 6800 cards overclock terrible on these cards? On my old Intel rig, my POV 6800Ultra could do 475/1300, but on this S939 card it can't do more then 430/1200. My PSU is good aswell. No drops on the lines. I have even tried with different PSU's to be sure. Any suggestions?

[avicenna]

As you people said there is no advantage with PCI over AGP today.

There will be later though, when they begin to implement routines that lets the gpu handle cpu intensive tasks, thus freeing cpu cycles for other tasks.
Agp port is too slow for this purpose and here the PCI 16x will show it´s advantage, as i said we are not there yet and it will take a while before this will happen.

[Mongoose420]

lots of problems have been posted by nvidia users with nf3 ultra boards(maby even 250gb's also) but im not sure if a workaround has been found yet tho.

Glad you got everything figured out tho.

[eclypse]

I plan on exchanging my X800XT card at newegg for a PCI-Express version and waitin out for the PCI-Express M/Bs. All the 939 suck and i hope the new boards with the NF4 chipset will be better. That and slap a FX-55 and be done... I hope to be happy for about a year or so.

Quick question though.. The PCI-X cards out now.. Can you use them in a SLI configuration in the futrue or will i have to buy 2 totally new cards for that?

[hollywood]

Most don't have that luxury though... or the money

So what...

If your into this hobby...you either adapt or you will be left behind.

Simple as that.

[blinky]

and what good will this be for someone with a 9800xt, 6800gt, x800pro?

i think u have trouble thinking

if someone has x800pro, they can sell it for $375 and pay $430 for a PCI-e version card, if someone has 9800pro they could sell it for $175 and get a 6600GT PCIe for $200


if someone has a $400 card theyre not gonna get the x700xt but i addressed your question which was concerning how the pci-e cards are so expensive.


i give up theres no point in refuting your drivels

[bldegle2]

i see one small flaw in reselling an AGP card to get PCI-e, the resale value of the AGP cards will drop dramatically on the used market when PCI-e comes out, so recovery will not be as much as it is now.

AGP and AGP boards will be around for awhile. there will be a long transition period to accomodate the changeover, of that i am sure .............

baldy

[saaya]

the msi neo2 has issues with bh5? 0_o

then please explain how 1pagebook reached 280mhz 2-2-2 1:1 with 1T on his board...
and i heard other people say that their bh5 runs fine on the neo2...

[Mongoose420]

lol, the MSI's are very board to board aparently. 3 people will get one and work perfectly, 3 people will get em and have minor issues, and 37 people will get one that barely works LMAO Ive never had good luck with a MSI board.

[The Runner]

msi board requires extensive tweaking to get right mongoose, perhaps you just didn't give it enough time?

When mine arrives, I will burn it in for a few days, before beginning to tweak the bios for some overclocking!

[Mongoose420]

i didnt even bother with the k8n neo2, i learned my lesson on msi boards before s939 were even announced. I happy for people get get working ones, but they can have them as far as im concerned.

[Kane]

Hey guys

A quick question for you. How is it using halv MP, for example 9.5x ? I'm tweaking my RAM to the limit (Booster Broken, so only 2.85v) I am currently using 275x9.5 but I feel like I'm loosing a litte speed vs 260x10. Is this right?

PS. Very happy with the Geil Ultra X

PC3200 cl.2 -2 -2 -5 -1t @ PC4400 cl.2.5 -3 -3 -10 -1t

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[Mongoose420]

lol, nipp shot! bad.....

the reason your loose'n some is because the .5 multi's on a64's are broken. on full multi's the formula for memory speed is HTT*Multi/Multi=memory speed. But on .5 multi's it rounds up the divisor to the nearest whole number. so at 275x9.5 your only running 275*9.5/10=261mhz and there is a slight performance hit for running asynch.

Nice clock on the memory tho, drop that down to 275x9 to see if she'll fly there.

[Kane]

lol, nipp shot! bad.....

the reason your loose'n some is because the .5 multi's on a64's are broken. on full multi's the formula for memory speed is HTT*Multi/Multi=memory speed. But on .5 multi's it rounds up the divisor to the nearest whole number. so at 275x9.5 your only running 275*9.5/10=261mhz and there is a slight performance hit for running asynch.

Nice clock on the memory tho, drop that down to 275x9 to see if she'll fly there.

Ahh. thought something was wrong Tried going down to 9x. 270 was go, but 275 was a no go. Couldn't even open CPU-Z without a bluescreen. Ah well. Guess I going with 260x10 then. Thanx for clearing up the half mp's for me Mongoose420

[texuspete00]

Wow, I guess GeForce really does live in the past. I'm just surprised he adds cards like the 9800pro to the list. It's still good, but he can't fathom someone ditching it and going PCIe?.... WOW.

My GT is an eVGA, I might do the trade-up program if they hit soon enough. Blinky had a good point too. I bought mine from someone who figured in retrospect that they couldn't afford it. I figured if I have to go and sell it, part of the hit has been taken for me already.

[eclypse]

No one must of seen my question..

Quick question though.. The PCI-X cards out now.. Can you use them in a SLI configuration in the futrue or will i have to buy 2 totally new cards for that

[misteroadster]

K8NSNXP939 without vmods, not so bad ; 2T enabled of course :